another good option than zaino?

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palulo1

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I have silver gray cars, wine white used z2 z6 z7 z8 zaio am happy with the results but I want to try other brands.





costarica live and I would like to try another brand, such blackfire diamond?
 
Heh heh, IMO if you're happy with the Zaino you might oughta just stick with it :think: But I'll give you credit for being open to other choices.



FWIW, on silver/gray/white I like FK1000P. Somebody will probably suggest Poxy from 3D, you might like that too.
 
ok, I'll explain myself better, I like zaino, but the drying time of the product etc. bothers me a bit, I would use a product that has a glossy finish and is fast drying and not so time consuming, so my question blackfire diamond.
 
If you like Zaino you'll like Duragloss 105--similar look but a little warmer. Reasonably priced and if you mix DG 105 4 to 1 with DG 601 you can add additional coats in 2hours. Maintain with DG Aquawax 951 and or DG Fast Clean and Shine 921. 105 will give you 4-6 months protection. Duragloss Fixed shipping at $4.95 no matter how much you order. As mentioned above HD POXY is also a great choice but not quite as long lasting.
 


What is your cure time requirement? BFWD has a standard cure time like almost all other sealants. You don't usually top it for a few hours.





I have used the "newer" BF Crystal Seal. It is a WOWA sealant like Opti-Seal. It leaves a nice finish and cures in around 45min. So you can top it an hour after putting it on. It may be something to look into. I can do a regular sized car in under 15min with it as well.
 
ok, thanks, zaino z2 for proper activation is hard to dry at least 2 hours in the climate where I live, I say blackfire diamond 30 to 45 minutes is sufiiente to cure.
 
BFWD might be a bit slicker but I'm not sure you'll think it looks better than Z2 on silver. It also doesn't like moisture for curing, probably more so than Z2.
 
"I'm not sure you'll think it looks better than Z2 on silver"



I have to agree with you on this again Dan. I just wish other lsp's changed the look of paint like Zaino does on silver.
 
I agree with that, the z2 in silver is great I have no doubt that, maybe I would like the healing time is quicker than is sometimes the problem.





z8 certainly the most impressive yet makes it look silver color also.
 
Only LSP iIve ever used on silver cars is OS but what about something UPGP, thatis supposed to looks good on lighter colored cars. No experience with it so can't comment on cure time.
 
Somebody will probably suggest Poxy from 3D, you might like that too.
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palulo1 said:
I agree with that, the z2 in silver is great I have no doubt that, maybe I would like the healing time is quicker than is sometimes the problem.





z8 certainly the most impressive yet makes it look silver color also.
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How much Z2 are you using on the car? Should be 1/4-1/2oz. Zaino goes on super-super-super thin, when you apply it, it should feel like none is going on the car. Only when your applicator pad starts getting grabby is when you should apply a pea sized dot and continue.
 
I'd go with Opti-Seal if you don't mind applying it 3-4 times a year (so easy though, just wipe on and it clears out on its own), or Opti-Coat if you want to do it one time and not have to worry about waxing or sealing again for several years.



If you want a warm, wet look and are open to trying a wax, Collinite 476 looks great and is pretty durable.
 
Agree with Scott, Optiseal is another fantastic choice on Silver. I've also been trying it on less than perfect finishes, it's amazing on dry/moderately oxidized paint, really makes it pop, though the effect doesn't last more than a few days.
 
Dan said:
How much Z2 are you using on the car? Should be 1/4-1/2oz. Zaino goes on super-super-super thin, when you apply it, it should feel like none is going on the car. Only when your applicator pad starts getting grabby is when you should apply a pea sized dot and continue.
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if in fact the z2 I apply a small drop per panel, but if it takes a while to dry.



As mentioned the Optiseal scottwax might consider for later since I have yet z2.





z12 will be good for glasses? I have a problem that glasses are seen as dirty stained z7 am using the shampoo, but those stains still persist.
 
palulo1 said:
if in fact the z2 I apply a small drop per panel, but if it takes a while to dry.
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Small drop is a relative term which is why I was asking about the actual measured quantity. I used Z2 when I live in NC quite a lot and it was 90-100% humitity and 90-100 degrees on a regular basis, never had and curing issues. But it may just a local thing you are seeing if you are sure of the quantity.
 
Dan said:
Small drop is a relative term which is why I was asking about the actual measured quantity. I used Z2 when I live in NC quite a lot and it was 90-100% humitity and 90-100 degrees on a regular basis, never had and curing issues. But it may just a local thing you are seeing if you are sure of the quantity.
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ok, thank you all great forum always help greatly.







greetings.
 
Never tried the zaino products, but for silver I am still reaching for the 20$ tin of FK1000 that I've had for a few years now. If I'm feeling a bit fancy I use the Blackfire wet diamond which adds just a touch more shimmer. (Depends mostly on prep.) Jetseal 109 is also a pretty reliable base coat for either of the two.



FK1000- Awesome, use it on windscreen (front and rear) whole car, wheels lights etc. Dries very quickly, can be layered as soon as its removed etc. Apply veryyy thinly



Blackfire-A breeze to apply and remove, no matter how long its been sitting. Never could get the durability I wanted from it though. (have both polycharged and non, both a few years old)



Jetseal- Wouldn't recommend as a top coat (durability) but easy to apply and remove, layers instantly, and looks good.



All are good on silver, but I still don't think LSPS add too much beyond slickness.
 
Another good looking sealant on silver is Mothers FX liquid wax. It dries quickly and looks very blingy. The paste version has more durability and depth, but not as blingy. Still great on silver though.



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The only thing to let the liquid FX down is it's durability. You'll probably need to apply it every 3-4 months depending on how your car is garaged.
 
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