Alternative to Blackfire Clay restorer?

LeMarque

LeMarque

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Purchased a bottle of this a while ago and while it does seem to clean up the clay, I'm getting the sense that the clay is somehow deteriorating with its use. It's almost like the clay is losing its consistency and begins to 'shred'.



I spray the clay, massage it and then rinse it off. Cleans up pretty good.



Is the a different or better solution?
 
Better? Not necessarily. Different as in cheaper? Definitely.



Just use your common APC (something like Optimum Power Clean that is paint safe is probably the best bet) to clean the clay in exactly the same manner. Granted I haven't used the BF product, but I'm willing to bet that's all it really is anyway, a RTU dilution of some sort of APC.
 
I have noticed clay seems to get a little waterlogged and become crumbly about halfway through a car on a warm day, both with and without the clay extender. After allowing it to dry out for a day it is right back to normal. (Of course I tend to drop them before too long so I can't really speak for the long term.)
 
A clay cleaner? Sounds like the brainchild of Mad Maxx. Mothers clay from advance is so cheap per use that I can't imagine buying something to maintain it. Has anyone factored their time and ROI. It'd be interesting to see.
 
I have used the BF clay cleaner and did a review of it on the TID forum. It just seems like a soap type product and not like an all purpose cleaner. It worka but got to believe something else could also work but not worth the trouble to find out.
 
C. Charles Hahn said:
Better? Not necessarily. Different as in cheaper? Definitely.



Just use your common APC (something like Optimum Power Clean that is paint safe is probably the best bet) to clean the clay in exactly the same manner. Granted I haven't used the BF product, but I'm willing to bet that's all it really is anyway, a RTU dilution of some sort of APC.
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I've tried APC but Blackfire does a better job. Maybe Dan's right.
Mothers clay from advance is so cheap per use that I can't imagine buying something to maintain it. Has anyone factored their time and ROI. It'd be interesting to see.
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Dan said:
A clay cleaner? Sounds like the brainchild of Mad Maxx. Mothers clay from advance is so cheap per use that I can't imagine buying something to maintain it. Has anyone factored their time and ROI. It'd be interesting to see.
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So how many uses do you get out of a bar?
 
I would suggest not using a clay cleaner that contains chemicals. To clean clay just knead it or run it under warm water to loosen any debries that it picks up from the paint surface. By using warm water it will soften the claybar to make kneading easier. Have you tried the new speedy prep towel from S.M Arnold yet? I have had fantastic results with them.
 
Mr Dekaney,



Can you list some of the benefits to the Speedy Prep Towel vs. the Claybar. How has it benefited you? I really enjoy them for a variety of things.
 
LeMarque said:
So how many uses do you get out of a bar?
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I stray on the side of safety so I usually relegate it to second tier after five uses per bar. It works out to about a buck a car.
 
moderator2 said:
I would suggest not using a clay cleaner that contains chemicals. To clean clay just knead it or run it under warm water to loosen any debries that it picks up from the paint surface. By using warm water it will soften the claybar to make kneading easier. Have you tried the new speedy prep towel from S.M Arnold yet? I have had fantastic results with them.
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Thomas Dekany said:
Step into the future will you? :D:D:D



HD Nano Prep - Clay Bar replacement
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Got four unopened bars I bought on a deal. Also, although I plan on trying the 'towel' when I'm half way thru those, I've read concerns about the towel possibly not 'containing' what it picks up and resulting in marring, scratching the finish. But I can't remember where I read that.
 
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