ALL in ONE polish/cleaner/wax

00GREENMACHINE

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I am looking something I can go to when doing some cars on the side. Most people seem like they dont want the higher detail when a poilsh is applied and then a sealer. They want the 55-75 deal for just polish. I want it to last as long as possible. I have been using VM due to its great results on about every color, plus it so thin I just learn from someone here it can be put in a spray bottle and sprayed. It works like a champ!.
 
A better All In One product would be Poorboy's Polish with Carnauba. You'll get better durability than Vanilla Moose and better results. VM has some wax in it, but it's not really meant to be used as a one step product. Regular Moose Wax is the one step product in the Clearkote lineup.

Another option is Optimum Polish and Optimum Car Wax. Apply the Polish with the PC, spray on the wax and wipe both off at the same time. You get a nicely polsihed surface with a wax that offers pretty good (2-3 months) protection.

A final alternative would be Klasse AIO. It does a fantastic job at cleaning and leaves behind some acrylic based protection.
 
Scott P said:
A better All In One product would be Poorboy's Polish with Carnauba. You'll get better durability than Vanilla Moose and better results. VM has some wax in it, but it's not really meant to be used as a one step product. Regular Moose Wax is the one step product in the Clearkote lineup.

Another option is Optimum Polish and Optimum Car Wax. Apply the Polish with the PC, spray on the wax and wipe both off at the same time. You get a nicely polsihed surface with a wax that offers pretty good (2-3 months) protection.

A final alternative would be Klasse AIO. It does a fantastic job at cleaning and leaves behind some acrylic based protection.


SCOTT I have heard that poorboys polish with carnabua can be difficult to apply. I need the easiest and fastest way. What about the red moose? Is it thin like VM? How does Klasse AIO apply far as ease. I have a bad habit of putting on too thick. WHat are the Klass twins? I have heard somethings mentions about them before.
 
Klasse shouldn't be applied thick. If you have a tendency to over-apply, you may want to look at another product.
RMG is a glaze, applied by machine, used to fill swirls etc. before applying a wax topper. It isn't a stand alone product.
What sort of problems have you had/heard about PwC? I've used it in sun and shade and it's pretty easy to use, for me, anyway. Apply it thin, work it in, let it dry to a haze, remove. I've found that it works quickly on oxidation, but not so much on swirls/cob webbing, if you use a polishing pad. I've used a light cut pad with PwC and that does remove some cob webbing without hazing/dulling the surface. Some people have said they get over 4 months protection with PwC (I can't seem to get anything to last as long as others seem to be able to. :( ). Even with me, though, it lasts over a month.
 
Big Leegr said:
Klasse shouldn't be applied thick. If you have a tendency to over-apply, you may want to look at another product.
RMG is a glaze, applied by machine, used to fill swirls etc. before applying a wax topper. It isn't a stand alone product.
What sort of problems have you had/heard about PwC? I've used it in sun and shade and it's pretty easy to use, for me, anyway. Apply it thin, work it in, let it dry to a haze, remove. I've found that it works quickly on oxidation, but not so much on swirls/cob webbing, if you use a polishing pad. I've used a light cut pad with PwC and that does remove some cob webbing without hazing/dulling the surface. Some people have said they get over 4 months protection with PwC (I can't seem to get anything to last as long as others seem to be able to. :( ). Even with me, though, it lasts over a month.


I am hearing that is has to be applied very thin. Do you get problems removing it. I might give the PWC a try. I am going to get the RMG for my car and some Nattys. MY car is black.

I wish I could find a all in one that is thin like VM.
 
Klasse AIO is very thin. "Watery" even. It has a "pin hole" to pour it from.
If I did have a problem removing PwC, a quick spritz of S+W takes care of it. Usually this would be if I was using it on a pretty warm car, in the sun, and some areas were applied a bit too thick (usually when done by hand. :rolleyes: ).
My car is black too. Natty's looks :bigups on it! And the water sheets off when washing/rinsing, which helps with the drying.

Edit: Why do you want something thin?
Also, VM has LOTS of filling ability, so what you end up seeing isn't a lasting effect. With AIO, it may actually highlight swirls, as it has no filling ability.
 
Big Leegr said:
Klasse AIO is very thin. "Watery" even. It has a "pin hole" to pour it from.
If I did have a problem removing PwC, a quick spritz of S+W takes care of it. Usually this would be if I was using it on a pretty warm car, in the sun, and some areas were applied a bit too thick (usually when done by hand. :rolleyes: ).
My car is black too. Natty's looks :bigups on it! And the water sheets off when washing/rinsing, which helps with the drying.

Edit: Why do you want something thin?
Also, VM has LOTS of filling ability, so what you end up seeing isn't a lasting effect. With AIO, it may actually highlight swirls, as it has no filling ability.


If Klasse is that thin then it could be lightly misted on the pannel. If you are saying that Klasse brings out the defects like webbing and swirls then I dont need it because I am looking for something that will clean,polish and protect. I could probably use Klasse on my car but the cars I will do are not in great shape. I did luck up and do a co workers camery yesterday and she loved it. Said it looked new. I was glad. I just did 1 coat of VM. I sprayed it on the pannels and used a white pad.

Would the Poorboy's Polish with Carnauba (Blue) be a good choice?
 
I would concentrate on proper technique rather than looking for a product to act like a crutch. PwC and Klasse AIO are not hard at all to use. Applying thin coats isn't hard at all. Vanilla Mose and Red Machine Glaze are not meant to be used as one step products. RMG doesn't even contain any wax. Regular Moose Wax is a cleaner wax that can be applied quite thick and still come off easily.

I still think PwC or AIO is your best choice.
 
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