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31st330i

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now I'm not trying to start a religious war but I don't recall ever seeing this detail posted. what I'm looking for is the basic reasoning to choose one over the other.



I've read most of the recent threads on MF towels and realize that they are great as are 100% USA cotton towels.



assuming top quality MF towels and top quality 100% USA towels, the only difference I can come up with is that the MF towels are cheaper if you take advantage of a group buy (assuming sale price at your local store on the towels).



neither towel scratches the finish and both types should last a long time with reasonable care. both absorb very well (perhaps MF gets a slight edge).



what else is there?
 
but it's not the cotton that can scratch but rather a poorly made towel or dirty towel. this can affect both MF and 100% USA cotton, correct?

notice that I do specifically mention <span class='bbc_underline'>quality 100% USA cotton towels.
 
I have noticed that with a 100% charisma towel when I QD my Zaino finish it mares the surface slightly.I had always used cotton and just started tring MF towels a few months ago.When I use the MF's I do not get this scratching effect with these and the charisma's are only a month or so older than the MF's.This is just my opinon I am sure others will have something to add.
 
MF's are more absorbant and easier to work with.



I use both- cotton for an initial wipe and MF for the final wipe. Cotton gets most of the wax/polymer off, and the MF gets the remainder. Why not use two MF's? Cotton is more absorbant at first. Think of cotton as a paint roller, and MF as a paint brush. Cotton is better for big jobs, while MF is better for finishing touches.
 
Quality cotton towels (I prefer Fieldcrest Charisma) and quality MF are both great. Basically I use both, but for different purposes. I like removing wax with the cotton, doing windows with cotton, quick detailing with MF, interior with MF, etc. Try both, I'm sure you'll easily find out which you like best for different jobs.
 
I enjoy using cotton a lot more. They are easier to take care of, they slide along your car better and they are cheaper than MF. But even with very light pressure, I notice marring on my Z'd coats, so I'm pretty much relegated to MFs...which certainly aren't a bad second choice.
 
31st, I should also add that buffing with cotton is easier...at least for me. It takes very little effort to buff out sealant using charismas. What did you use on your initial Z coat(s)?
 
I used the top of the line Filedcrests that were on sale at mervyns at 40% off. apparently towel companys do the same thing that the mattress companies do. they offer 99% identical products at different stores under different model names. these fieldcrests are apparently the same ones that macys sells as their top of the line fieldcrest.
 
I am in there with Dude and InterM, cotton removes BF, SG and now Zaino with less effort.



I still QD with MF on SG and Carnubas, but I use cotton for all my Zaino work.
 
I have a different opinion. I don't think a good quality cotteon terry will scratch the car, nor will MF. A spec of dirt under EITHER certainly will.

Because we can't completely control what lands on our car, even immediately after a wash, I think a fundamental goal should always be "maximum effect (drying, residue removal) with minimum wiping." <strong class='bbc'>MF wins hands down[/b] here.

To prove it to yourself, just try drying a steamy bathroom mirror with terry. You wipe, and you wipe, and you wipe. It keeps leaving micro-streaks behind until you wipe a LONG time. Now (I'll explain in a second) make one pass with the terry. Don't even wipe - just press it up against the mirror to get rid of most of the moisture - and then wipe with a microfiber towel. DRY - in ONE PASS. Now - why blot with terry first? Because MF only does this when it is pretty dry, and it doesn't work well once it absorbs much water. So when i dry, I BLOT with terry, (no wiping=no scratching) and then wipe ONCE with MF. Voila. (By the way, feel free to conduct this test on your paint - you WILL get the same results.)

When you're buffing, particularly on a darker car with any product that has any oils (pretty much any wax, glaze or polish) you will see the same "micro-streaking" with terry. More wiping does nothing but push it around on the paint, and risks scratching. One pass with MF - no streaks.

MF is the best, and except for washing dirty lower areas or blot-drying, terry never touches my paint any more.
 
I don't like the fact that microfibers are so expensive, I'll buy them when the "hype" is gone and they are priced like they are a peice of normal cloth, not a bar of gold.



Cotton works perfect for me, I don't get ANY swirls or scratches and they are alot cheaper. I also like the fact that they are really thick and soft compared to these wafer thin microfibers that go for so much money. Sure, they have the microfiber towels but how expensive are those.



For now cotton is awesome for the price, when microfiber is thicker and cost ALOT less I'll buy some, right now they are just "hype" to me. :rolleyes:
 
I own a pro mobile detailing business in So Cal and MF towels really are worth the money- they are that much better than cotton, and I have been doing this for years. I pretty much only use MF towels. They are 100% better for removing wax and doing windows and they leave no lint which is a huge plus.;)
 
I generally avoid "QDing sessions" because I believe the less I wipe the surface, the less swirls I will get, and I have noticed this to be true. I wash weekly, or more, if I can. I mainly use QD when I buff off wax or polish, and I have noticed that a good, lubricated MF is less likely to give swirls. I use Royal Velvet cotton towels (great, great towels) for blot drying the car, and they work very well.
 
I've been using micro fiber towels for quite a few years now. When they first started being sold they were through the MLM companies and sold for $20.00 for a small cloth (Trasan). There was a lot of hype then. Now there are micro fiber towels out that sell for a buck a piece. I think the price has settled down to a reasonable cost for what you get. There are very good, high quality mf towels for about $5.00 that will outperform cotton in many areas and will last longer than cotton. Not saying cotton doesn't have it's uses, but most people who try a good mf towel will see the immediate benefits of adding them to their arsenal.
 
I use Royal Velvet towels as well, I really like them. I'm not saying that microfibers stink, I'm just saying they are too expensive. Which leads me to my next question ......



Prinz, where are you getting these microfiber towels for 1.00, I'm interested now :-)



Are they any good?
 
Here is the link to the 25 cloths for $25 + $5 p&h. http://tidycloth.com/ The cloths are lower end and the size is only 8 1/2 x 11. If you are looking for cheap cloths, these will do. I'm not going to buy anymore though.

I've been buying towels from neatitems for the last couple of years. I get together some friends and we buy a 100+ at a time to get the wholesale price, just like some of the members are doing here on the abay forum. By ordering them with some local friends we don't have the double shipping costs so our price works out to about $2.60 for a 15" x 15" quality mf towel. Next order I'm going to try some of their 24" x 24" size. I've been really happy with the 24" x 46" size but the wife won't let me use her bath towel on the cars. I also tried using her mf hair turban on the car, but she started complaining about the headaches from going over the hood ornament.
 
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