A good filler, suggestion

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Marj

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Well, it happens to everyone if they keep their cars long enough. Owning a black '04 G35 since new, I am realizing that I don't have much paint left to polish and so I am wondering what is a good filler wax? I don't know how long I will own the vehicle so I don't want to go to the expense of a repaint.

Thanks
 
Most of Meguiars stuff fills pretty well, AutoMagic HydroShine, and Bilt Hamber Auto Balm are all well known for filling light to medium swirls.
 
Thomas Dekany said:
I bought Autobalm, and it covers like nothing else, but the durability was gone shorter than anything else. Too much $$$$ also
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I don't mind durability, because I am willing to reapply every week if necessary to keep it looking its best. OBTW I have read a lot of people like 1Grand blitz, autoglym and RMG. Don't have any experience with any of those products at least not for the application that I need the product for.
 
Autoglym Super Resin Polish (the new version is meant to be a lot better than the old one)is a good solid glaze but really needs a wax or sealant to protect it. I do not think the One Grand Blitz will fill very much but the One Grand Glaze will. I have had a very different experience from Thomas Dekany regarding Bilt Hambers Auto Balm, it lasted about 2 months on my car although others have reported more and some did not get very long
 
In my very limited experience, Meg's Ultimate Polish/Glaze seemed to fill well and has lasted quite a while. With a coat of wax on top, of course. It gave my car a very deep radiant shine. The only thing I didn't like about it, is that you must work very quickly and NOT let it dry.
 
Dan said:
I haven't had much luck with 1G Glaze or Wax filling or SRP.
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So you haven't had much luck, hmm, perhaps I shouldn't go out as spend $$$ if someone is not having the desired affect. Still on the fence as to what to get.

I am wondering, doesn't a glaze do some cutting. I know my Meguiar's speed glaze #80 does and the 3M PII

I am hoping not to take down any more paint, just something to put on top of the paint that will fill. At this moment the paint is as perfect as I can get, but will not be able to polish any more. I am putting on Collinite once a week hoping this will keep the power tools on the shelf.
 
Nothing fills like Autobalm. Hard to put on, hard to get off, but it will make your car look nearly perfect.



If you want a perfect finish, You should level the paint or have a pro do it.
 
He stated in the original post that he doesn't want to remove anymore clear. But as far as taking it to a pro maybe you could pay them a small fee to measure paint thickness for you to see if you are in fact getting to that point.
 
I agree. I also have a 04 G35 that is getting thin. I have a PTG and in the low 90's.
brownbob06 said:
He stated in the original post that he doesn't want to remove anymore clear. But as far as taking it to a pro maybe you could pay them a small fee to measure paint thickness for you to see if you are in fact getting to that point.
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I just tried the CG glossworkz glaze and it filled in all the swirls and 80-85% of the RIDS with 2 section passes. Glazed paired with a LC orange at speed 5 on a black mini cooper.
 
bcgreen said:
So you haven't had much luck, hmm, perhaps I shouldn't go out as spend $$$ if someone is not having the desired affect. Still on the fence as to what to get.

I am wondering, doesn't a glaze do some cutting. I know my Meguiar's speed glaze #80 does and the 3M PII

I am hoping not to take down any more paint, just something to put on top of the paint that will fill. At this moment the paint is as perfect as I can get, but will not be able to polish any more. I am putting on Collinite once a week hoping this will keep the power tools on the shelf.
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Its not that they don't fill, its that they really don't fill any better than NXT, which is sort of my baseline for filling. Another approach is QD/QWs that fill. Just spray after every wash and you will get good results without damaging the paint further.
 
Maybe you could consider a good polish and follow with Opticoat 2.0 or one of the quartz coatings. This would be kind of like a second clear coat and one that you could polish off if it got swirled in the future without removing paint.
 
If Auto Balm is an option you could top it with a wax. I have used Bilt Hambers Finis wax but no doubt other products would work just a well. Maybe something like OCW



Here is a quite a long thread about Auto Balm Auto-balm - THE thread! - Detailing World



An alternative could be as jfelbab suggested. A quick final polish to give improve the gloss and then finished with a long life sealant or coating ie Opti Coat
 
Lowejackson said:
Autoglym Super Resin Polish (the new version is meant to be a lot better than the old one)is a good solid glaze but really needs a wax or sealant to protect it. I do not think the One Grand Blitz will fill very much but the One Grand Glaze will. I have had a very different experience from Thomas Dekany regarding Bilt Hambers Auto Balm, it lasted about 2 months on my car although others have reported more and some did not get very long
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As an owner of a 2003 black daily driver that I will drive into the ground, I am always in pursuit of a great glaze to hide marring. Unfortunately, I have not found one that will hide marring AND last an appreciable amount of time. One negative that I have experienced is also a partially compromised LSP. No matter what I put on top and no matter what the marketing gurus tells me about "zero impact on wax/sealant durability because of 100% compatibility", LSP longevity is measured in weeks when I use a glaze - Stuff just never lasts as long when a glaze enters the process. With that said, the ones I tried and liked for filling capabilities:



CG Glossworkz Glaze

CK RMG

1G Omega Glaze

Prima Amigo



I have some light swirling and the above products will hide 75%-80% of the marring. Durability is the time between application and the next washing session :wink



Also, keep most (if not all) glazes away from plastic/rubber trim or you will have a hard time getting it off.
 
Thomas Dekany said:
Nothing fills like Autobalm. Hard to put on, hard to get off, but it will make your car look nearly perfect.



If you want a perfect finish, You should level the paint or have a pro do it.
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It already is and most of its life its been perfect. No need for another pro taking the paint down to the primer, I can do that perfectly on my own.
 
jfelbab said:
Maybe you could consider a good polish and follow with Opticoat 2.0 or one of the quartz coatings. This would be kind of like a second clear coat and one that you could polish off if it got swirled in the future without removing paint.
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That's a good idea. I have not read enough about Opticoat 2 or quartz coatings to know how to apply. But I like the idea.

Thanks
 
jfelbab said:
Maybe you could consider a good polish and follow with Opticoat 2.0 or one of the quartz coatings. This would be kind of like a second clear coat and one that you could polish off if it got swirled in the future without removing paint.
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Jim brings up a great alternative to a glaze. If your paint is currently in great condition (albeit on the "thin" side) then a layer of Opticoat probably fits your needs better. Another sacrificial layer that is decently scratch-resistant and lasts infinitely times longer than any LSP, thus removing the need to glaze in the future.



From your previous posts, it sounds like you have done a great job at keeping your baby in excellent condition...i doubt you will have any problems applying Opticoat to your car.
 
brownbob06 said:
He stated in the original post that he doesn't want to remove anymore clear. But as far as taking it to a pro maybe you could pay them a small fee to measure paint thickness for you to see if you are in fact getting to that point.
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I know it is quite thin. By the drivers door where the driver (not me) created multiple scratches that I have taken out, at least most of them. During my last polish marathon, I could just barely see the primer appearing in this area.
 
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