A glaze that won't strip wax?

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HomicidalSloth

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I'm looking for a glaze that will hide minor imperfections and make the paint look wetter without stripping wax.



The thing is, I have been doing my winter prep detail on my black car, and I have Klasse AIO + countless layers of SG on top of that, and I would really like to put a glaze on the paint before the LSP (probably Natty's blue).



I know that I should have just done the glaze before all of the sealent layers, but it's too late now, and I have a lot of work put into SGing it that I don't want to undo.



Does Meg's Show Car (or Machine) Glaze have cleaners / strip wax? Is there anything that won't strip wax that I can use? Or would I just be better off using a "heavy" carnuba like #16 (will that hide minor imperfections?)?



Thanks!
 
most of your glazes out there will either have abrasives or chemical cleaners. i personally don't know of any that dont contain either one of those. I don't think there is anything out there that would fit your bill. Besides, SG really doesn't like to bond to anything but AIO or other SG applications anyways. Your durability would have been crap if u had put anything inbetween the SG and AIO. I'd go for the heavy carnauba approach and just throw some #16 or a collinite on like you said.
 
As far as I know, the Meguiar's 'pure polish' lineup (same thing as a glaze) contains products that do have no chemical or abrasive properties. Look into #5, #7, or #81. I could be wrong, though.
 
90% of the work is in the preparation.

I'm sure you already know that the swirls should have been removed BEFORE all that SG...





If you really thought the swirling was gone, then it may be in the SG. Use AIO to remove that.



Reapply the SG as required.



Jim
 
MOTHER'S SEALER AND GLAZE



According to Forrest T., it is just abrasive enough to scuff the waxed/sealed surface without doing any real damage ot the wax or sealant.
 
This is one area where I think Zaino has a heads-up on the competition. Z5 is pretty much the type of product you are looking for, of course, it only works with the Zaino system.



I would also like a "layerable" glaze so I don't have to go back and repolish if I happen to get a few marrs in the paint. Basically, just a filler type product that I could top with a carnauba.



I didn't realize the Meg's products wouldn't have an adverse effect on a carnauba. Interesting... I may have to try one of those.
 
Polishes and glazes like Meguire's are full of silicone sp? and oils that bring the shine out. At the same time they do remove the waxes and sealants on the car. They should be used prior to a lsp. CALL Mcguire's and ask them.1-800-347-5700 I think I'm 90% correct. Let me know.
 
3Dog said:
Try FK1's FX100. Can be used on top of carnauba and it is layerable.
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Interesting, thanks for the recommendation. This also reminds me of Adam's Brilliant Spray Glaze, but from what I have heard, it doesn't do much of anything for paint, and is better suited for chrome, etc.



I've been wanting to check out some FK products.
 
megs pure polishes like #5, #7, or #81 will not remove wax or sealants polishes like #83 or #80 will remove waxes

but the pure polishes wont be very durable unless you apply a wax over it
 
Pure Polishes will take off the wax. Just confirmed with Mcguire's. He said you must use them before your wax or sealant. Good Luck
 
wannafbody said:
IMO using a glaze over a sealant should only be done for a car show or competition -it isn't going to last very long
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He said he's gonna glaze it before putting on an LSP (probably natty's blue). Again, I confirmed with Mother's that their Sealer/Glaze would be perfect for this situation. As 3Dog mentioned, Finish Kare's FX-100 SPray Glaze would be a great option as well.
 
I just posted and asked Mike Phillips he should reply soon

I just dont see how a pure polish (that leaves no protection and has no cleaners and isnt removed by nxt which has slight cleaners) can remove something durable like nxt or SG

the normal useage is a polish/glaze first and that might be what meguiars customer service is taught to say

but i'll post what Mike says
 
MDRX8 said:
Pure Polishes will take off the wax. Just confirmed with Mcguire's. He said you must use them before your wax or sealant. Good Luck
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You are reading your own interpretation into what Meguiars tech support told you. Meguiars tech support is going to stick to their suggested use for their product. There is no way they can test every situation and application method enthusiasts may try. Meguiars pure polishes are meant to be applied first because they offer no protection to the paint, they are meant to be sealed in with a wax or sealant.



Keep in mind the many and varied definitions for the term "polish" by every manufacturer out there. In the case of Meguiars "pure polish" means no abrasive or chemical cleaners.
 
But think about it. Something that contains silicones and oils to bright your car WILL break down waxes and sealants. Good detailing!!
 
MDRX8 said:
But think about it. Something that contains silicones and oils to bright your car WILL break down waxes and sealants. Good detailing!!
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How do you know? There are lots of different kinds of silicones out there. The silicone concentration may be so minute it won't break down anything. The silicone in the product isn't necessarily the only thing helping to brighten, deepen, or wetten (sp?) the paint. Not trying to call you out, I'm curious about this as well.
 
As much as I like the look of Glazes, I wouldnt risk a glaze now over my winter layers of Autoglym Extra Gloss just in case. Would hate to risk removing any protection.



Saving my Glaze collections ready for my summer coats now.
 
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