A couple of pics and a little problem.....

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Alex Creasey

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A quick once over with Poorboy's Spray and Wipe, followed by a hand applied coat of NXT (Am I the only one who finds the shape of NXT botles an absolute ergonomic nightmare?????). I only had about an hour on Saturday morning to get this done and was quite happy till it rained in the afternoon :rolleyes: lol....



http://www.autopia.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5653&size=big&papass=&sort=1



http://www.autopia.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5654&size=big&papass=&sort=1



Now for the problem.... Been trying to get minor swirls out of the clearcoat using DACP and a Meg's burgandy pad (they don'y show unless you really look hard under sunlight but, thay are all over the car). Only mild success even after two passes.... It just doesn't seem to be working very effectively.

No matter what products I'm using they are appearing 'oily' or 'silicony' on the paintwork, not spreading easily and occaisionally streak, which is becoming a real pain and something I've never had a problem with before on any car. My question is..... Could my car have been 'Diamond Brited' or what ever you want to call it at sometime in it's life? Is that what is giving the silicony/ oily effect to everything? And most importantly, whats the most effective way of removing this layer of 'car care evil'?????? :D.



Cheers :).
 
that is sweetness.......don't really understand what "diamond brited" is.......you should try and take pics of the scratches......
 
Alex,

First you have a really cool car.



Second, the problem. I am not sure what you have available in the UK, but I would try the following: Either Meg's #9 or #82, or 3m PI-III Machine glaze (or similar product) with a polishing pad. I think the minor swirling is caused by the burgandy cutting pad.



Eric
 
I had the same problem with DACP and a yellow cutting pad, it just wouldnt break down enough and always left micromarring, some PI-III-MG and a white pad cleared it all up.
 
Hm, my experience with Meg's polishes is if its not buffed out completely, it becomes smeary and greasy (as well as hide defects!) I suggest wiping down the trouble area with alcohol to get a clearer look of the paint - is it product residue, is it marring, etc. Some pictures will be helpful. (Hm, do you think if its the S&W that caused the damage?)
 
Thanks for the thoughts people.

It's not the products or the burgandy pad causing any damage, theres definately no damage being caused, it's all already there. They are helping the paint very slowly but, I just can't seem to get this silicony effect off the bodywork. I wanted to try and remove it with polishing but, looks like I'm going to have to revert to alcohol (for the car, not me! ;)) and some fairy liquid (like Dawn) to try and get it off.



The best thing I can compare it to is if you get trim detailer on the paint, and when wiped away it smears on the bodywork for a while and then eventually comes off. Thats why I think the car could have had one of these dealer option protective coatings that are nothing but a pain in the ****. This is happening with EVERY product I try and use.



It's this coating (if thats what it is) thats making the swirl removal very difficult I'm sure of it. I used the same combo (burgandy pad, DACP, speed 5) on a section of my daily driver and it came up a treat. I had tried the DACP with a polishing pad but it had even less effect.



Any other thoughts would be much appreciated.



Cheers chaps :).
 
You could try CMA's Orange power pad if you can get it shipped across the pond. I found it was a bit more aqggressive that Meg's burgundy.
 
Alex, the skyline looks sweet m8! Got to pay you a visit so we can compare cars and maybe pick up a bottle of DACP :D

You probably have the same stuff on your car that i have coz the Japanese love it. Its a polymer paint protection which is probably the same as Dimondbrite . I really dont see why an abrasive like DACP doesnnt remove it. Saying that other MEGS products i used on my old skyline also left this almost oily finish on my car. Try washing the car a couple of times with fairy and see what happens. Let me know what happens as i will probably need to do it to my R34.



Cheers



Gerry
 
Thanks Gonzo, and thanks Gerry.



I'm gonna do the fairy liquid thing first, see if that helps at all. I don't really want to start getting anymore aggressive products or pads, as I think once I've got shot of this 'protective layer' everything will be back how it should be, and I can do what I like with no probs.

I'll keep you informed Gerry, pop round whenever you like, just give me a buzz to check I'm in first :). I've spent the last two Sundays on the car and I can't see this one being much different :D....... Haven't even started on the interior or engine bay yet even though both are pretty good!



Looking forward to seeing the R34 now it's had all the work done.



Cheers.
 
First off, nice car. :xyxthumbs



I think I remember the thread where you were telling us about the purchase of the car. Since it is a used vehicle, you might not know the complete history. It could be that there was paint repair done at some time, and the painter shot clear over pre-existing scratches or marring. I hope that isn't the case, but I have seen it before.
 
Thanks IndigoGTI. This had crossed my mind initially but the car has never had any respray work, and the fact it's so uniformly over the whole car I don't think this can be the case.



The actual body work and general paint condition is excellent for the cars age, the scratches don't show under 'normal' lighting conditions, most people are baffled when I mention that I'm not yet satisfied...But I know it's there....... A few more experiments are called for though to try and sort this out.



Cheers. :).
 
Meguiars is definitely an oily product. It needs the oils to allow for extra buffing time which is needed to break down the abrasives. I would try a different product like Menzerna Intensive polish. This product is only small amount of petroleum and allows you to see the surface work you are doing. Honestly, the darker the car the more problems.



Another solution would be to use less product and concentrate more on smaller sections.
 
I know we've already talked about this matey so can only suggest what everyone else has said really.



Maybe worth trying a Fairy detergent wash on a small section? See if that shifts whatever's on your paint before trying it on the whole car? Different clay to the stuff you usually use?



f the problem's a coating of some sort, I'd say myself that any polish is going to smear and appear ineffective til the coating's removed entirely.



My 205 had a "trade" wax on it coz the chap I bought it from told me - cheap bulk stuff which hides scratches etc (at least he wass honest about it I s'pose!). Took 2 Fairy washes to get shot of it all but I'm now sorted - may well drive it up to pick my stuff up so you can see it.
 
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