pt91: Haha yeah, my friend has been on NSXprime the moment he considered buying a NSX. The look before we topped with the FMJ is not too reflective at all. It had a great shine and depth, but that's just after glaze, so we had to seal it with FMJ. I love FMJ, it is by far the slickest and easiest to use wax I've ever used, and I've tried tons. I have tried Z5, but not on a black car, but once again, never felt there was too much reflectivity with Z5 or any wax I've used. I can see a difference between Trade Secret and Natty's reflectivity wise though. Trade Secret gives more depth, darkening paint ever so little, Natty's gives shimmer and reflectivity more, and not as much depth. So I use Natty's on my silver cars, and I gave my friend with the black NSX the Trade Secret. We'll probably be working on his car again this weekend, I'll try and get some interior pics then.