$400K. It doesn't buy you what it used to!

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When you spend $400K, you'd expect to get more than what my poor customer did.



He just took delivery of his 2010 Ferrari 599 HGTE. It was flown over from Italy less than two weeks ago, made a brief stop at the local dealership (they had strict orders not to touch it...and they actually followed those orders), and then it was immediately brought to me for a new car prep.



I've worked on enough new Ferraris to realize that there's going to be some polishing, but was not expecting what I found!



It has very severe holograms, repainted areas, poorly blended touch-up or "spot" painting, overspray all over the hood and left side of the car, d/a sanding pigtails, deep scratches, and a few burnt edges to boot! What was originally planned for a day long session will now spread out over the week.



Take a look at what I've got going on here, and remember, this is BRAND NEW and untouched by the dealership.



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Swirls, scratches, holograms, and I don't even know what that is in the middle!



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Light reflection isn't supposed to do that...



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This is just a small section, but the entire hood is absolutely ridiculous. Crazy holograms!



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Heavy overspray on top, scratches and sanding marks on bottom.



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A brand new 599 HGTE, $400K. D/A sanding on said car...priceless!



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sans wheels:

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The cost of these brakes are worth more than my entire car. Carbon Brembos.



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Fun, fun, fun!
 
I am sure it is unrelated, but I can see why Michael Schumacher would leave Ferrari. QC of this caliper is unacceptable.



Hey, at least we all know that the car is in good hands now and will look the way it should have from the factory.
 
Curious how this seems to happen a lot. Looking at Apollo's work too...this is not

even something one sees on a new Honda. Obviously, the manufacturers "detailing"

department, and the paint department, is hacking it up.
 
I've seen a fair amount of industrial equipment that comes from Italy. In general, this stuff doesn't surprise me. Italian quality just isn't the same as what you'd expect from USA or Germany.
 
The worst part is that panels had been repainted and touched up. From what I've seen and read about Ferrari, it's supposed to be almost perfect. Why would a 2010 need to be repainted? Hmm....
 
I've had a chance to look at a few Ferraris up close and the paintwork is on par to that of an AVERAGE body shop, its really a shame. They say they are "hand painted", whatever that means.
 
yakky said:
I've had a chance to look at a few Ferraris up close and the paintwork is on par to that of an AVERAGE body shop, its really a shame. They say they are "hand painted", whatever that means.
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I'd have to say their paint quality is way BETTER than 99.9% of body shops actually. It's the guido's @ the factory with orders to make everything flat where their skill set is unjustifiable. Also, these cars aren't painted by hand:



YouTube - Ferrari Fiorano 599 GTB National Geographic Español parte 3 de 5



Great save Todd! I'm sure you'll give this one the attention it deserves.
 
I'm sure that a lot of the damage occurred once it left the factory. Who really knows what the "flight" over from Italy was really like.
 
That's a shame. My guess is they burned through the right corner on the bumper, touched it up and back taped it with a material that wasn't solvent proof. That big circle pattern looks like the pattern from the UV drying/curing device that's placed over the touched up clear coat (Spies HeckerYouTube - Speed repair for minor damages - UV technology - Spies Hecker). Also, what DA are you using in that picture? Looks nifty for getting in tight places and reduced pigtails from trash.
 
I have detailed many new Ferrari's for new car detail, but this one is about as bad as I've seen. The pigtails, and swirl marks all over are pretty normal, but overspray, and touch up, that sounds like aftermarket paintwork. The paint was super dry on the edge of the fender, that's not factory.





John
 
see now if he opted for the 450,000 he would have not had them swirls an holo's lol goes to show you how there service is.
 
Ahh, Guido and his Cowboy Banditios strike again!! It's good that other people than me get to see the horrible condition that these things arrive in. They do all the touch up work in an open hangar behind the factory AFAIK and I think that's where the bumpers are also sprayed... shame, shame. I guess since detailing has become more of a profession rather than a "job" these defects from Ferrari have become more apparent, but I'm sure that they've been coming out of the factory like that for years. Can't wait to see the finished products, Todd! Oh and don't forget to send a fruit basket and grappa to Guido and the boys!
 
tdekany said:
I am sure it is unrelated, but I can see why Michael Schumacher would leave Ferrari. QC of this caliper is unacceptable.



Hey, at least we all know that the car is in good hands now and will look the way it should have from the factory.
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Thanks Thomas. Here's their QC...just slap one of these stickers on it and you're good to go!



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I did a California and the condition was horrible.



Overspray. Runs on the door's edges. Sanding marks.



Really bad. Do not get it.....
 
Accrdwgnguy said:
WOW, If I had bought that car I would have sent it back. That is just terrible.
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These cars are special ordered, my client flew over to Italy last month to see it being built, and they made a placard with the owner's signature in it, and embedded it into the dashboard...there's no sending this one back! Once I'm finished with it, he will forget how it showed up from the factory.



wfedwar said:
I've seen a fair amount of industrial equipment that comes from Italy. In general, this stuff doesn't surprise me. Italian quality just isn't the same as what you'd expect from USA or Germany.
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I've seen Italian products across the board. They do an amazing job designing and building these beauties, but it all breaks down when they for some reason feel they need to hit it with a buffer afterwards!



joshs07redss said:
The worst part is that panels had been repainted and touched up. From what I've seen and read about Ferrari, it's supposed to be almost perfect. Why would a 2010 need to be repainted? Hmm....
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They probably needed to repaint a section or two because of the person that did the buffing!



yakky said:
I've had a chance to look at a few Ferraris up close and the paintwork is on par to that of an AVERAGE body shop, its really a shame. They say they are "hand painted", whatever that means.
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As David says below...their stuff is actually pretty good. It's just the untrained guy working with a dirty wool pad in the "buffing department" that makes it all go wrong.



Now if you're talking about older Ferraris, that's a whole different story. The paint on most of those was awful. They looked good from far, but far from good.



David Fermani said:
I'd have to say their paint quality is way BETTER than 99.9% of body shops actually. It's the guido's @ the factory with orders to make everything flat where their skill set is unjustifiable. Also, these cars aren't painted by hand:



YouTube - Ferrari Fiorano 599 GTB National Geographic Español parte 3 de 5



Great save Todd! I'm sure you'll give this one the attention it deserves.
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Thanks David, and cool video.



youngbro401 said:
I'm sure that a lot of the damage occurred once it left the factory. Who really knows what the "flight" over from Italy was really like.
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If you read Appollo's reply below, this kind of stuff is pretty standard unfortunately. This isn't the result of the initial factory paint, but it is the result of their final prep department before it got shipped.



rcrobbins said:
That's a shame. My guess is they burned through the right corner on the bumper, touched it up and back taped it with a material that wasn't solvent proof. That big circle pattern looks like the pattern from the UV drying/curing device that's placed over the touched up clear coat (Spies HeckerYouTube - Speed repair for minor damages - UV technology - Spies Hecker). Also, what DA are you using in that picture? Looks nifty for getting in tight places and reduced pigtails from trash.
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Actually that area is not the repainted part! The front left fender had been repainted, as well as a few inches at the front edge of the driver's door.



That D/A is from a 3M headlight restoration kit...very useful tool!



JohnKleven said:
I have detailed many new Ferrari's for new car detail, but this one is about as bad as I've seen. The pigtails, and swirl marks all over are pretty normal, but overspray, and touch up, that sounds like aftermarket paintwork. The paint was super dry on the edge of the fender, that's not factory.



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Yeah, definitely not "original".



Apollo_Auto said:
Ahh, Guido and his Cowboy Banditios strike again!! It's good that other people than me get to see the horrible condition that these things arrive in. They do all the touch up work in an open hangar behind the factory AFAIK and I think that's where the bumpers are also sprayed... shame, shame. I guess since detailing has become more of a profession rather than a "job" these defects from Ferrari have become more apparent, but I'm sure that they've been coming out of the factory like that for years. Can't wait to see the finished products, Todd! Oh and don't forget to send a fruit basket and grappa to Guido and the boys!
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If anybody would know Jesse it would be you. As I started to discover all of this, I thought: "I need to get these photos to Jesse!"



Yeah, Guido and the boys have helped me make quite a few mortgage payments lately so I'll be sure to put them on my Christmas list.



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^ lol to Jesse



Todd, I can't wait to see what you do to her. No doubt it's going to be some serious eye-candy
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I certainly hope to bring this beast to the level of finish that it deserves...stay tuned.
 
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