3m perfect-it III machine glaze

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Invigor

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Call me crazy, but I -really- like this stuff...works very well with a LC white polishing pad, or a 3m polishing pad (ha, go figure). I find it works great for giving dark cars a quick "pop" shine...it -really- works well on dark blue GM cars.



Don't get me wrong, I like my menzerna, but the 473ml bottles, give me a break! I'm still working on getting some Optimum polish once the summer pulls around.



Before anyone comments on OP or menzerna, who else likes 3m perfect-it products?
 
IBAccumulator. :D



PIII Machine Glaze was one of the first polishes I used that gave me the results I was after. Great polish (if a little dusty at times), capable of truly removing light to moderate swirls and leaving a great LSP-ready finish . . . however, the bad news is that it's been discontinued due to VOC content. I've got about 3/4 qt. left; if you really like the stuff, you may want to buy a qt. or two before they disappear from the shelves.



Tort
 
Heh heh, yeah, I always show up on PI-III threads :D



I too still *REALLY* like both the PI-III RC 05933 and the PI-III MG 05937. While I'll use a stronger product for serious correction and a milder one for a finer finish (on *some* paints but not all by any means), these two are probably still my two favorite abrasive products (qand yeah, I also have a lot of the supposedly "better" products to compare with).



Yeah they dust a little, but I still find them incredibly user-friendly by rotary/PC-Cyclo/hand. Perhaps it's just because I've been using them since forever so I'm very familiar with 'em.



My local autobody/paint supply place still had some the last time I was there, maybe I oughta get another few gallons..
 
DieselMDX said:
is this the 3m glaze sold by autogeeK?
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I'd guess that they're selling something else. All the typical sources for the PI-III stuff have dried up.



Note that 3M has a lot of products with similar names (even if the actual products are *very* different). The PI-III MG 05937 (05938 in gallons) isn't a real "glaze", it's a mildly abrasive polish that, as best I can tell, doesn't leave anything significant behind (it doesn't "fill" in my experience).



Invigor- Heh heh, only problem might be that you'll *really* like the stuff, not be able to get more, and have to relearn with something you could've just started with like Menzerna or Optimum. Or you could just "accumulate" ;) enough to last forever :D
 
Sure is pleasant to hear some positive comments on 3M, I was on the fence about getting some 05937 - according to my chart it's equal to Meg's #80 and I already started collecting Meg's products even though I'm not all that impressed with them. I'm going to get some at my local CarQuest before they disappear. Now, if the weather would just warm up......
 
JuneBug said:
Sure is pleasant to hear some positive comments on 3M, I was on the fence about getting some 05937 - according to my chart it's equal to Meg's #80......
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FWIW I have 'em both on the shelf, don't have anything against the #80, but I reach for the 05937 instead. In part that's because the #80 does more concealing than I usually want, what with all its Trade Secret Oils and its "Paintable Polymer Protection". #80 does tend to deepen/darken the finish a bit more though (again, because of the stuff it leaves behind).
 
That's it, 3M! Thanks Accumulator. I want a compound to get the crap out (swirls-scratches, etc) and a polish to ...well, polish, make the paint ready for my DG105. I don't want anything left behind after polishing. If I wanted to use a glaze, I would add that step.
 
Accumulator said:
I'd guess that they're selling something else. All the typical sources for the PI-III stuff have dried up.



Note that 3M has a lot of products with similar names (even if the actual products are *very* different). The PI-III MG 05937 (05938 in gallons) isn't a real "glaze", it's a mildly abrasive polish that, as best I can tell, doesn't leave anything significant behind (it doesn't "fill" in my experience).



Invigor- Heh heh, only problem might be that you'll *really* like the stuff, not be able to get more, and have to relearn with something you could've just started with like Menzerna or Optimum. Or you could just "accumulate" ;) enough to last forever :D
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AutoGeek doesn't carry it. If you want you can do a search on 3M 05937( qt) or 05938(gallon), these are the machine glaze.

The last time I checked there were a couple of companies still selling both.



The 3M 05933 rubbing compound is/was a lot harder for me to find I had to order on line at a stiff price.



Everyones best bet is to check locally for both products, however in Frederick Maryland you will not find any!:grinno:

I do know that there are some places overseas that still carry it, maybe it wasn't discontinued over there, I don't know.



Accumulator I think I have enough for some time to come 1 gal of 05938 and 4 quart bottles of 05933. After I bought the 1 gt of 05933 on line, the local place called me and said they had found 3 gt bottles and wanted to know if I wanted it for $8.00 per bottle, guess what I said:woot: :grinno:



Changeling
 
JuneBug said:
That's it, 3M! Thanks Accumulator. I want a compound to get the crap out (swirls-scratches, etc) and a polish to ...well, polish, make the paint ready for my DG105. I don't want anything left behind after polishing. If I wanted to use a glaze, I would add that step.
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Junebug, that last sentence is exactly how I look at it. I do intend to add a glaze by the way.



Changeling
 
There seems to be a problem with products names. A "Glaze" should have no abrasive materials in it. It should just make the car deep and wet looking. A "polish" is a true cleaner of paint surfaces. But this doesn't always hold true. RMG does clean the surface. Wow my brain is fried..............
 
MDRX8 said:
There seems to be a problem with products names. A "Glaze" should have no abrasive materials in it. It should just make the car deep and wet looking. A "polish" is a true cleaner of paint surfaces. But this doesn't always hold true. RMG does clean the surface. Wow my brain is fried..............
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That's about how I felt when Accumulator was explaining things to me, welcome to the club!



Changeling
 
Do ya'll think that a "glaze" adds that much? I've got XMT glaze, WG glaze, and Meg's #7 (never used) glaze. I worry, maybe incorrectly that adding a glaze step will cause my sealer not to bond properly. I know this ain't an issue with carnubas or Meg's 21 - but I'm sold on DG 105 and that's my LSP of choice for my car. THe cars I do for others, well I'm trying to use up my WG sealer although I like it, it's pricey. And for the most part I skip the WG glaze step - tried it once and I couldn't tell any difference except it added another step.
 
JMHO The Glaze or pure polish (Meg #3, 5, 7, 81) is the most underutilized step of a great finish. They add rich oils & stuff to the surface before wax or sealant.



JuneBug said:
Do ya'll think that a "glaze" adds that much? I've got XMT glaze, WG glaze, and Meg's #7 (never used) glaze. I worry, maybe incorrectly that adding a glaze step will cause my sealer not to bond properly. I know this ain't an issue with carnubas or Meg's 21 - but I'm sold on DG 105 and that's my LSP of choice for my car. THe cars I do for others, well I'm trying to use up my WG sealer although I like it, it's pricey. And for the most part I skip the WG glaze step - tried it once and I couldn't tell any difference except it added another step.
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I forgot to add.



If Accumulator has a source you can get from, I strongly suggest you not procrastinate and get it now.

Changeling
 
Changeling said:
After I bought the 1 gt of 05933 on line, the local place called me and said they had found 3 gt bottles and wanted to know if I wanted it for $8.00 per bottle, guess what I said...
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$8/bottle is a great price :eek: I have a little over a gallon of it, I'll probably switch to Hi-Temp Heavy (or Extreme) Cut levelers if/when I use it all up. The Hi-Temp stuff is very good, just...uhm...well, it's just not PI-III. Which some people would argue is a good thing. I still recommend the PI-III stuff for newbies but for people with experience the Hi-Temp, Menzerna, and Optimum offerings might make more sense.



MDRX8 said:
There seems to be a problem with products names.
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Yeah, ain't *that* the truth :rolleyes: Even within the same company's products you can get some mighty conflicting uses of what could be very simple terms.



Those of you using glazes (nonabrasive-type, "pure polish" glazes) *do* need to make sure your proposed glaze/LSP combo will work out.
 
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