3d waterless car wash

[Envious Eric]

who uses it all the time? I have gone through about 1/2 gallon of it now, and here are some things I notice



great cleaning ability, let leaves the finish kinda hazy (a qd wipedown after will freshen it back up)

can be used in the sun, but streaking is an issue



I diluted it 1:1 today and it seemed to remove the streaking issue and haziness issue. Does that sound right? I used it on a jerez black M3, and a tan/goldish honda crv. I had to QD the M3, but didnt seem to have to with the CRV, but maybe that was just because of the color. At $40/gallon, using 4-6 oz per car makes it pretty pricey for a car wash from a business standpoint when ONR is the same and you can get more from it and use less. (1/2 the cost per car, more uses - QD, clay lube, window cleaner, interior cleaner, etc)



Anyone have thoughts on it? I am swapping over to a waterless wash setup to be more compliant in office parks and whatnot, so I am trying to find the right product to use. next up to try is going to be the polys cleaning fluid stuff.

 

[AlexRuiz]

I am also using it diluted 1:1 for the same reason. It has so much lubricant that it streaks very easily, even worse in near or sub freezing temps. If you buff with a dry microfiber that usually takes the streaks out, but it is more effort.



$40 per gallon? Where? Autopia has it for $31, and to be honest, I would go for its fancier twin, HD free, which is $10 less a gallon and I would rate slightly better. I have found them both very good at window cleaning and all purpose cleaning, so I don't think a rinseless is better here. In fact, while it is practical to have one product for all the needs, why would you sacrifice performance? A dedicated glass cleaner still has more power for tough grime, a dedicated interior cleaner like HD total cleans better and a good quick detailer is still better at shiny surfaces.



Furthermore, the cost factor becomes a non issue, as $21 a gallon for HD free is half the cost of a gallon of a rinseless wash. Dilute the HD free 1:1 and the 4-6 oz per car become only 2-3oz from the gallon. 2oz of HD free equal 1 oz of rinseless wash as far as cost. Add the convenience and speed factor, and in my eyes the winner is clear.



Now, I think both coexist nicely. I wouldn't use a rinseless where I wouldn't go waterless, meaning that for soiled cars, you either rinse first with a PW blast or just go full regular wash. However, in sub freezing temps you can have the rinseless prepared with very hot water, allowing you to work the panel with less risk of freezing. The waterless is out of hope here. By the time you are done spraying the panel, the stuff is frozen



I say keep them both (waterless and rinseless), and use whatever that works better in specific situations. Keep in mind you your towels will be washed more often for the waterless.





Alex