2010 Infiniti G37 - Hard or Soft Paint?

I closed that thread because I did not want to take a chance of it going downhill fast. Considering the tone of ELD, I was not going to tolerate a flame war under any circumstances.
 
At some point I need to clay, polish and apply LSP to a 2010 G37 Convertible. I planned on polishing with Menzerna Power Finish using a PC 7424xp.

I've seen many references to paint/clear being hard or soft and I have no idea of which classification the Infiniti falls under. The color of the vehicle is Pacific Sky Blue (light blue) if it makes a difference.

Any feedback would be appreciated.
 
Soft paint generally.

If its metallic you should be in for a nice correction, if its non metallic black than I'm sorry for you.
 
On Tuesday I corrected a 09 G37s hardtop convertible in solid black.

The RIDS where very deep. I started at 8am, Bret showed up to bail me out at 9pm and we finished at 3am, yes 3am.

So I'd say the solid black is pretty hard. It had that sticker under the hood on the aft side. I cant remember what it said, but its not the same sticker that was on the 07 or so black infiniti's. Maybe the "Self-healing paint."

IT SUCKED! Director
 
Bryan , why do you always get stuck with Black nightmare cars?!

Maybe you should stop doing black cars! :biggrin:

I havent polished any infinitys but remember one owners manual saying compounds can scratch the clear coat and to use a fine polish instead (must have been the soft clear on that one)
 
detailchick said:
Bryan , why do you always get stuck with Black nightmare cars?!

Maybe you should stop doing black cars! :biggrin:

I havent polished any infinitys but remember one owners manual saying compounds can scratch the clear coat and to use a fine polish instead (must have been the soft clear on that one)
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80% of the cars I do are black. X_X

The G37s client had 3 other "detailers" attempt to fix the car over the last 6 months. Of course none of them could. Needless to say he was very happy with the work that was done. :clap:
 
SGM2008 -

Your color light blue, what is the condition of the paint when you look at it under good light, hopefully sunlight ?
Is it scratched, does it have that spiderweb effect all over it from the car wash?
If its a metallic blue or sold color blue, it should correct pretty easily.

What pad/s are you planning on using with your PC? Foam, Microfiber?
Are you experienced with the PC ?

Menzerna Power Finish, PO203s, has a 3.5 cut, (their most agressive product, Power Gloss, POS34a has a 4.5 cut.), and the gloss is rated at 3.8, the highest number in the Polishing compound category that your compound falls in. So, your product should finish down nicely, depending on your pad selection.. If you want to possibly get it more glossy, then you might consider a product from Menzerna's Finishing compounds, PO106FA, PO85RD, after you finish the initial correction stage with the PO203s..

Give us a little more info, if you want, and we can possibly help you dial this in more. Pics would also be of great help here too.

Dan F
 
gmblack3 said:
80% of the cars I do are black. X_X

The G37s client had 3 other "detailers" attempt to fix the car over the last 6 months. Of course none of them could. Needless to say he was very happy with the work that was done. :clap:
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maybe you should change your username Bryan :tongue:

Its funny I wont get a black car for several weeks and then all of a sudden I will get 3 in a row!
 
Stokdgs said:
SGM2008 -

Your color light blue, what is the condition of the paint when you look at it under good light, hopefully sunlight ?
Is it scratched, does it have that spiderweb effect all over it from the car wash?
If its a metallic blue or sold color blue, it should correct pretty easily.

What pad/s are you planning on using with your PC? Foam, Microfiber?
Are you experienced with the PC ?

Menzerna Power Finish, PO203s, has a 3.5 cut, (their most agressive product, Power Gloss, POS34a has a 4.5 cut.), and the gloss is rated at 3.8, the highest number in the Polishing compound category that your compound falls in. So, your product should finish down nicely, depending on your pad selection.. If you want to possibly get it more glossy, then you might consider a product from Menzerna's Finishing compounds, PO106FA, PO85RD, after you finish the initial correction stage with the PO203s..

Give us a little more info, if you want, and we can possibly help you dial this in more. Pics would also be of great help here too.

Dan F
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Thanks Dan and everyone else who commented. To answer your questions.....

The paint is light metallic blue and in very good condition. The car is garage kept both at home and at the office. The car was rarely driven during the winter so it really wasn't exposed to the winter elements. It's never been through an automatic car wash, it's only been hand washed. Under a bright light, you can see some very faint spider webs but nothing significant. Sorry but I have no pictures to post at the moment.

I only purchased the PC at the end of last summer so my experience is very limited. The pads are Uber foam pads so you can connect the dots as to where the PC was purchased. I had planned to use a green pad which is their 60 PPI polish pad.

Given the condition of the paint, I was considering the Menzerna Super Finish (P0106FA) instead of the Power Finish but I was certainly open to suggestion. The paint will be clayed with Riccardo Yellow using ONR as the lubricant.

If I missed anything, let me know.

Thanks,
Bob
 
Bob -

Thanks for the extra info -
The Uber Green Pad seems to be a popular pad to use for light correction, and it works great. A lot of people especially like it with Menzerna P106FA Super Finish, which has at cut of 2.5 and a gloss of 5, the highest number for gloss..

So you are stepping down a whole number from 3.5 cut Power Finish, to 2.5 cut Super Finish. This could work great, given your detailed description, and the paint is happy to let the light marks come off it.

If not, you can always keep the green pad and use your original idea, Menz Power Finish, and see how it looks and finishes for you.

Those Infiniti's always look so good on the road, a just beautiful shape !

Im a big Bimmer fan too, and have a very sweet set up with an Independent BMW repair shop, who sends me unending vehicles to Detail ! I know, I am really lucky ! :)

Good Luck with this,
Dan F
 
Good advice here. I like to work for maximum results and would probably choose to do 2 stages. But the color will likely be forgiving and finish nicely with PO203.

I feel you all on the black cars. I recently did an Acura NSX in black (soft paint) that is a garage queen.('99 with 26K.) He is the organizer for the local car club and emailed photos to all his friends. I now have numerous inquiries for NSXs, many black.:doh: I am happy for the business, but not looking forward to the repetitious frustration.~X(
 
Dwgcmc -

That is great that you got referrals ! I really like the Acura NSX's and wish they hadn't stopped production. A design that was way ahead of its time.

I also get all the black vehicles too, have about seen them all.
Many dont like to work with them, but since I use a Rotary, its really not as hard, once you find the right combination. Nothing looks better than a rolling black mirror going down the street as it leaves my garage ! :)
Also agree with you on the 2-step approach to really jewel out the paint and maybe if it goes easy and fast, Bob will choose to do that.

Dan F
 
Stokdgs said:
Bob -

Thanks for the extra info -
The Uber Green Pad seems to be a popular pad to use for light correction, and it works great. A lot of people especially like it with Menzerna P106FA Super Finish, which has at cut of 2.5 and a gloss of 5, the highest number for gloss..

So you are stepping down a whole number from 3.5 cut Power Finish, to 2.5 cut Super Finish. This could work great, given your detailed description, and the paint is happy to let the light marks come off it.

If not, you can always keep the green pad and use your original idea, Menz Power Finish, and see how it looks and finishes for you.

Those Infiniti's always look so good on the road, a just beautiful shape !

Im a big Bimmer fan too, and have a very sweet set up with an Independent BMW repair shop, who sends me unending vehicles to Detail ! I know, I am really lucky ! :)

Good Luck with this,
Dan F
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Thanks again for the advice ..... it looks like I'll be picking up some Menzerna P106FA Super Finish.
 
I spent 18 hours last thanksgiving working on my wifes obsidian black 2007 G35. We had bought it off-lease...

Anyway, full of RIDS because of how soft the paint is.

What I found that worked great for me was Meguiars M105 with SurBuf. That finished down REALLY nice, then follow up with M205 on white, then black LC pads.

I hope that helps, good luck!

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After reading the condition your paint is in, I would just do some M205 on LC white, then again on LC black.
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