#01, 16, 96, 97 & 98 dropped

jfelbab

jfelbab

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It's official, per Mike Phillips, the EPA VOC requirements has caused Meguiar's to drop these products. When inventory is gone it's gone.



Darn, I really liked #16. I stocked up and if you like this product get it quick.



M0216 & M0201 Fine-Cut Cleaner - (Both 16oz and gallon sizes)

M1611 Professional Paste Wax

M9616 Medallion Premium Leather Care

M9716 Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner

M9816 Medallion Premium Paint Protection
 
I'm suprised they don't reformulate #16 given its popularity. I did not like the look or application but the durability was excellent.
 
In the title I typed #01 and that should have been #02. As far as I know #01 is not being cancelled. Sorry for the typo.
 
I'm not all that surprised, as it seems like meguiars is moving away from professional and towards consume products.



I like #16 but when I use the last of it up that's it. I'll just find something else. It isn't that great to stock up on. And I like being able to try new products that I can recommend to people.



here's a question: How does mother's pure paste wax compare? I know it is more expensive, but is durability comparable?
 
Well, I figure 3 cans ought to last me a lifetime as long as i never do it for money, so The order for 3 more is going to megs tonight.
 
Such is life I guess. I've used #16 and the entire Medallion line. MPPC is a SUPER chemical cleaner...but can be replaced with AIO. MPPP is a pretty unique polymer among the Meg's products. It has a nice look but I had some trouble with removal...no big loss. The leather cleaner/conditioner is an average 1-step product...nothing spectacular. #16...damn that one I will miss...glad I "squirreled" away a few tins when rumors of its demise first surfaced this summer. A suitable replacement IMHO...Blitz Wax. Not quite the bright, glossy look of #16 but same rock hard durability.



You know what is funny....it is that our Canadian friends have known about the demise of #16 for quite sometime while us folks here in the States were in denial (at least I was). I remember reading more than one thread where Canadian Autopians said their distributors were saying #16 was going the way of the dinosaur.
 
I don't mind losing #16; the best thing about it was the price/value equation, but there are plenty of great sealants and waxes to step right in. The one I'll really miss is the MPPC. That's a great heavy duty, non-abrasive and non-marring paint cleaner.





Tom
 
Corey Bit Spank said:
I'm not all that surprised, as it seems like meguiars is moving away from professional and towards consume products.



I like #16 but when I use the last of it up that's it. I'll just find something else. It isn't that great to stock up on. And I like being able to try new products that I can recommend to people.



here's a question: How does mother's pure paste wax compare? I know it is more expensive, but is durability comparable?
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EPA VOC requirements , not moving away on their own. Forced too.



That kinda sucks. They may not be able to ever make a product like these again. Im not too worried about #16 but I would have like to tried mppc. But better not get into that one now, im sure I might like it too much and dont want to depress myself.
 
I know what is on my shopping list when I hit up my Meguiars distributor...in fact, I'm calling him in the morning to hold me 4-5 cans. AIO+16 is a great combo.
 
I feel like a month ago I met a great new friend and we bonded. We found out that both of us work well with AIO. And then the government shot and killed my new friend.



I think we should put the Autopia palm trees at half mast.



Now to convince the wife I need more products.



CaptRamrod
 
I posted a rant on this over on MOL, but the more I think about this, how can these professional products, which have to be sold in (relatively) small numbers, really have an effect on anything, in the big scheme of things?



How many people have a can of #16 in comparison to things like, say, a car (with a big tank of VOC's riding along with it)? Or charcoal lighter fluid, or cologne, or a hundred other things that people have in their houses that is more common and used more often than #16 or MPPC.



I suppose it's possible the EPA has cleaned up the air so well that these minute sources now appear on the radar screen, but it seems more likely to me that they have their head up their VOC exhausts.
 
Damn, I just picked up a bottle of #80 from the local paint shop now I gotta go back tomorrow for a tin of #16--don't have any so I gotta try it right?!



here's a question: How does mother's pure paste wax compare? I know it is more expensive, but is durability comparable?
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I've been wondering the same thing. I see it all over the place and have heard good things about other mother's waxes. I've tried 3M PI show car paste wax and like it. Very clear reflections and wet-looking although not as wet as Natty's. Supposed to be durable too but I haven't left it on long enough to tell. About same price as #16 for a 10.5 oz tin.
 
I'm not worried except for the #16. I have 1 can left, and will just save it for some time.



But I hope they don't drop the #80 series or any one of them (especially #80 Speed Glaze). A good number of megs followers may be disappointed.



OFF-TOPIC:



You referring to Mom's Phase 3? It's a carnauba (liquid and paste) but different from #26 in the looks department. Or not as deep as #26, or reflective as #16. Just like in the middle.



It's not a bad wax! But I see Mom's Carnauba Cleaner Wax (different from Phase 3) to have more depth, but not much reflective. It's just me.
 
Great. I got hooked on #16 just 3 months ago and they dump it. Is my timing great or what?



Aside from just stocking up let me ask:



What waxes look, bead, and behave(durability) most like #16?



Even if NXT paste turns out good, it's not the same as #16.
 
I think what Corey mentioned earlier is right on in regards to Meguiar's. The cost to reformulate a product is high and it just isn't economically feasible to do for the compnay, especially since their focus these days is clearly consumers with the Gold Class and NXT lines being pushed so hard. I think 16 is a great product and it is sad to see it go, but I'll live. That is the beauty of competition.
 
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