Edge vs. LC comparison

carazy

carazy

"I coulda had a V-8"
I have LC curved edge VC pads now and I am considering the Edge pads for my PC.
So, I am wondering if anyone has tried using The Edge yellow cutting pad with say SSR2 on half of a hood and the LC yellow cutting pad with SSR2 on the other half of the hood, both at speed 4.5-5.0 to see if there is a noticeable difference.
I guess what I really would like to know is. Do the Edge pads do a better job at removing defects vs the LC pads, using the same products and procedures.
I would like to be sure I spending my hard earned money wisely.
Thanks for any input
Lonnie
 
Can't really speak for the Edge pads, but I find I get more done with the flat-faced meguires pads, than I can with the LC variables. The LC variable pads are better served on a rotary than they are on a PC. PC's do not produce that much splatter (when properly used), so I don't see any benefit to having them. Don't get me wrong, they're great durable pads, but IMO worthless on a PC. As I understand it, the edge pads are also flat faced, and they appear to reduce the amount of product the is absorbed into the foam. This means more product is on your paint finish, and not wasted in the foam.
 
Thanks usdm.

I have found out from the manufacturer that these pads are not designed for the PC. So the flat pads seem the way to go.
 
carazy said:
Thanks usdm.

I have found out from the manufacturer that these pads are not designed for the PC. So the flat pads seem the way to go.
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I've used the Lake Country VC pads and have had great success with them. I disagree that they aren't meant for the PC as CMA recommends them as do other sites. I've found that each person has his preference and I like the Lake Country VC pads. I'm in the process of ordering a couple more.:beer
 
hmmm, well ive had experience with both the edge pads and the LC pads (thanks ranney)... heres what i have to say about it

from my experience, i would have to say that the LC pads are overall better. the edge pads are great to get, however, what puts the LC pads above the edge pads for me is the design and "flexibility". i respect the fact that edge has its durafoam deisgn, but............ personally, i think the durafoam makes the pad itself very stiff. the LC pads can really "give" more. if you were to press each pad against the paint, you would notice that the LC pads would be more forgiving to the surface. if thats good or not, you decide. also, i believe that the LC pads actually have a bigger diameter, making it more econmoic (maybe).


ah, and finally a side note. the LC pads dont vibrate. i know this issue has already been adressed by aaron, so lets see how it goes.
 
Maxtorque02
They are recommended by lots of people and lots of sites, I personally like them as well. The problem I had is them coming off the velco pad and that is when I contacted the manufactorer (LC) and they said that those pads are not designed for the PC.
I am just trying to determine if the edge product is worth spending the money on when I already have spent some bucks on the LC pads.
 
I too have used both the LC variable contour pads and the Edge Classic foam pads for the PC. I personally prefer the Edge flat design over the curved, variable contour design of the LC pads. I find the flat pad (Meg's or Edge) allows for much improved surface area and I don't have to bear down on the pad to get contact with the finish.

This really is a personal taste kinda thing. For the price of the Edge pads I'd say it might be well worth the few extra bucks to pick up one or two Edge pads along with your LC pads and try them out. Nothing like first hand experimenting for getting a feel for which you prefer.

If you do decide to pick up an Edge pad or two I would recommend a light green, blue and white foam pad. Those three are 90% of what you'll need. The Edge Classic yellow foam is a medium cut foam and is much more agressive than say Meg's yellow poplishing pad. The blue foam is a fantastic, all around very light polish foam that almost does away with having to use separate polishing and finishing pad.
 
I think that LC's response to this problem is a 'big copout' ("copout" - does anyone say this anymore?), and I, for one, am more than a little distressed about it.

Maybe we should use some 'leverage' and boycott Lake Country products completely.

Sorry if I have upset a sponsor Dwayne.
 
freedre said:
I think that LC's response to this problem is a 'big copout' ("copout" - does anyone say this anymore?), and I, for one, am more than a little distressed about it.

Maybe we should use some 'leverage' and boycott Lake Country products completely.

Sorry if I have upset a sponsor Dwayne.
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LC isn't a forum sponsor.
 
Maxtorque02 said:
I've used the Lake Country VC pads and have had great success with them. I disagree that they aren't meant for the PC as CMA recommends them as do other sites. I've found that each person has his preference and I like the Lake Country VC pads. I'm in the process of ordering a couple more.:beer
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Fair enough. But just because a company endorses a product, it does not mean that the product can be useful for a particular application.

If you really think about it (and I'm sure most of us didn't in our buying hazes), there is little to any benefit in using the LC vc pads. Unless you lift the PC off the panel when it is motion, you would be very hard pressed to encounter any spaltter, so the ant-splatter function of the pad is useless. Since the PC only jitterbugs, you cannot benefit from the variable contours of the LC pad. Any rotation that the PC does is just a by product of the jittering action- once you apply pressure, the rotation stops. And unlike a rotary, the benefit to the pc is being able to use all the pad surface area to work a product- a rotary tends to do it's best work when at an angle. The vc pads are so contoured, that you really do not get any maximum surface area.

As mentioned before, LC pads are good, but we have to be mindful of the types we use, and the way we use them
 
usdm said:
Unless you lift the PC off the panel when it is motion, you would be very hard pressed to encounter any spaltter, so the ant-splatter function of the pad is useless. Since the PC only jitterbugs, you cannot benefit from the variable contours of the LC pad. Any rotation that the PC does is just a by product of the jittering action- once you apply pressure, the rotation stops. And unlike a rotary, the benefit to the pc is being able to use all the pad surface area to work a product- a rotary tends to do it's best work when at an angle. The vc pads are so contoured, that you really do not get any maximum surface area.
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Here here :beer

That "maximum surface area" thing you mentioned is my main reason for perferring the flat edge type pads over the LC. Even the Valugard Euro line of foam pads (rotary only) are only lightly beveled up from center allowing for that "slight tilt" but still maximizing surface area. On the variable contour pads you have a very small section of the outer ring that is in contact with the finish.

I also wonder well the small contact area of a VC pad is able to dissipate heat vs. the maximized surface area of a flat (or nearly flat)pad. I would think you are concentrating the heat buildup (again mainly speaking rotary) into a much smaller contact area than you would if using a flat or almost flat pad.:dunno I may be splitting hairs here....who knows.

The first time or two I used the VC pads I really really tried to stick with them. I liked the 7.5" size and being able to use one size pad for rotary or PC. I just couldn't get used to the shape/contour.
 
Thanks to all for there time and input.
Best solution is to try each side by side, which is what I will do.
carazy
 
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