Steve...I had a problem with EX-P

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breakneckvtec

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I had a problem with EX-P when I tried it out last weekend, heres what happened:

First, it spread like cement, aka not at all
Then, after we had about 4 days of rain in the middle of the week these blotches of it started appearing as though I didnt buff it all out...but I did.
When I went to wash this past weekend, I got NO beading, at all. It was like there was no protection on the paint.

Here was my application method in detail:
I used two applicators, I first tried a MF then a foam pad. It didnt spread well with either. I applied about a dime sized amount to a dry applicator and tried to spread thin. No go. I continued none the less until the car was done. It was EXTREMELY hard to buff off. Nothing fancy. Where did I go wrong?
 
I'm Steve so I feel I'm qualified to help you out :lmfao
Maybe you could try a spritz of water on the applicator to thin it out?
I have only applied EXP with a PC and had no issues.
 
Prior to this the car had:

Clay
DACP
VM

Then the EX-P

The applicator was a MF one, dry, hand applied.
Temperature was in the low 70's
It was shaken extremely well.
 
Not sure about this, but maybe it was the VM? I know that EX-P works with Pwc, but VM I think has glazes in it. Or maybe it didn't have enough time to set up. How long after it was on did it start to rain?
 
I'll never be able to figure out why when something goes wrong a person feels like they need to tell the whole world when they could do it in private.

There's no need to plant doubts in peoples minds about the quality of a product until all other avenues of complaint resolution have been used.

Very rude and unthoughtful thread to have started. You could have pm'd Steve, emailed him, called him but you instead choose to tell the whole freakin world.
 
hmmmm sounds weird to me too...shake bottle ....damp sponge or mf applicator , just a small drop and let it dry completely ...if it was not dry it also could be harder to get off...as far as residue...it was probably some of the prep product along with the EX-P...make sure you buff out thoroughly with a smooth mf cloth as your final buff...
 
Where did I bad mouth EX-P?

Do you want to actually READ the thread?

I am primarily trying to get input on whether or not I did something wrong. I know EX-P, and poorboys products for that matter are good. This is a detailing forum, a poorboys product one to be more specific. This means you may read alot of good, and some bad. I never trashed the product, I looked for input to my application to see if thats where the problem lay.

You can sit down now.
 
Poorboy said:
hmmmm sounds weird to me too...shake bottle ....damp sponge or mf applicator , just a small drop and let it dry completely ...if it was not dry it also could be harder to get off...as far as residue...it was probably some of the prep product along with the EX-P...make sure you buff out thoroughly with a smooth mf cloth as your final buff...
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Wait, I need to use a damp applicator? The MF applicator I used was bone dry, was that the problem? Does it need a few spritzs with water first?

I use your MFs to buff off, like those alot.
 
easy Jim...it's ok:D ...discussing it makes it better for me, especially for the next time...the more ideas the better, since there have been few if any problems reported we need to explore it it's not agreeing with another product:dunno
 
breakneckvtec said:
Wait, I need to use a damp applicator? The MF applicator I used was bone dry, was that the problem? Does it need a few spritzs with water first?

I use your MFs to buff off, like those alot.
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I bought a gallon of a product recently p&s express wax . i applied it to my truck it was very hard to apply and even harder to remove. i didnt like it at all . i discussed it with the chemist and he said sometimes a product doesnt work in a certain geographical area . i sold the gallon to my dad who lives in seattle and he says its the best stuff hes ever used. just some food for thought: :dunno
 
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So, would my not using a damp applicator be the cause of all of this then?

I guess I worry that the water might effect the EX-P, is that really how its desingned to be used?
 
breakneckvtec said:
So, would my not using a damp applicator be the cause of all of this then?

I guess I worry that the water might effect the EX-P, is that really how its desingned to be used?
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Well...go out and try it and tell us if it fixes your problem.
 
you're not really having a wet applicator, but damp...the dampness will allow the product to spread thinner...
 
had to check as I do not remember everything these days...clearly on the directions it says use a damp sponge or mf applicator:doh
 
Was the product gummy?

Also, products have less to do with geography and more to do with humidity. For example Chicago summers are muggy and at night as temps dip to the dew point my products stop working so well. Winters here are dry as a bone and my products work fine. Some areas like So Cal and Florida are prone to high humidity where as Arizona is not. I'm not sure what time you used the wax Ron but maybe you were too close the dew point or the product just dried into sticky crud because high surface temps and heat evaporated the solvent too quickly. Steve's products don't have the heat and surface temperature problems of course
:bigups
 
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