Favorite Panel Wipe? Static Electricity and towel lint driving me mad lately...

BudgetPlan1

BudgetPlan1

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Last 2 coatings I did (22ple & Kamikaze so likely not a product-related issue) were troublesome due to excessive lint/dust on prep`d surface. Have been using Gyeon Prep lately and wondering if related to that. I can`t recall exactly if this issue first started when I ran outta WG Perfeckt Finish Paint Prep and started using Gyeon Prep. Just seems like that car is `charged` and really tenaciously holding onto very, very fine towel lint. Short nap, Long nap...just seems to be an increasing issue of stuff left behind after somewhat liberal applications of Prep prior to coating. Like the towels aren`t picking up the very fine stuff but rather just pushing it around.

All worked out OK by carefully wiping panel with a Gyeon Baldwipe Towel immediately prior to coating a panel, essentially pushing the lint to the adjacent, gonna-be-coated-next panel...wiping/coating...moving around the car until I ended up back where I began. Obviously don`t wanna be touching the paint as much as I am in this scenario...if I ever run into a soft paint will possibly leave some marring. Towels are washed as they always have, no change in that aspect but it almost seems as if the car is `charged` with static due to the manner in which the lint clings to it instead of cleaning to a towel I`m `dusting` the surface with prior to coating application.

Wanna/gonna try a new panel wipe product to take the Gyeon Prep outta the equations, wondering what is everyone`s favorite? I think I have seen mentions of Optimum and Gtechniq as `favorites` but can`t remember for sure; the WG was OK but seemed streaky at times, especially as it aged in container.

Something, however, seems to be creating excessive static on surface during prep wipedown. Gyeon is `supposed` to be anti-static but who really knows. Weather has been kinda hot and humid lately if that might play into it.

Maybe I should just drive a metal stake 5ft into the ground and attach the car to it with a metal grounding strap prior to coating; while pointless, would make for some interesting pictures.
 
I use OPT paint prep...been through about a gallon of it over the past few years.
I have gyeon Prep but now I don`t feel so great about using it BUT I couldn`t imagine it would be the prep product. I`m willing to bet they are just about all created essentially the same. I actually posted a thread about this in the past and it received little to no responses. (about if all paint preps are essentially the same)

I`d have to argue that the towel touching the paint is leaving the positive charge, but then again I`m merely a social scientist :)
 
I`ve used Optimum Paint Prep and Eraser. Recently used GTechniq panel wipe and I find that to work better than the others.
 
nickclark08 said:
I know this sounds crazy, but would a grounding wrist strap help (like they use when building computers)?
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It don`t sound any crazier than chasing an ever-building line of fine lint around the car until you get to the last panel.

The only thing that would lead me to think that maybe Gyeon isnt working in my particular garage environment is that it just started happening and I can`t quite remember when I went from WG Prep to Gyeon Prep...but it was recently in the last month or so....I think.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
It don`t sound any crazier than chasing an ever-building line of fine lint around the car until you get to the last panel.

The only thing that would lead me to think that maybe Gyeon isnt working in my particular garage environment is that it just started happening and I can`t quite remember when I went from WG Prep to Gyeon Prep...but it was recently in the last month or so....I think.
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maybe you have used so many different coatings in that garage that you have built up an invisible layer of silica and static :)
 
I`ve used IPA, Eraser, Opti-Prep, and Gtechniq Panel Wipe. Panel Wipe is by far the most effective and I`ve not had any static issues with it. I like the way Opti-prep felt, but its weak sauce IMO.

I heard a rumor Panel Wipe was actual relabeled Spies Hecker, but can`t confirm that.
 
RaskyR1 said:
I`ve used IPA, Eraser, Opti-Prep, and Gtechniq Panel Wipe. Panel Wipe is by far the most effective and I`ve not had any static issues with it. I like the way Opti-prep felt, but its weak sauce IMO.

I heard a rumor Panel Wipe was actual relabeled Spies Hecker, but can`t confirm that.
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well I guess I`m gonna switch to panel wipe then
 
512detail said:
maybe you have used so many different coatings in that garage that you have built up an invisible layer of silica and static :)
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Guess it`s time to load a gallon or so of Panel Wipe in the Foam Cannon and foam the whole garage...

512detail said:
well I guess I`m gonna switch to panel wipe then
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Yep...gonna give the Gtechniq a shot..

RaskyR1 said:
Spray onto the towel, not the paint. Use caution on none OEM or fresh paint.
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Interesting...have really been hosing the car down with the Gyeon Prep, per Gyeon USA recommendation, then wiping. Maybe too much of a good (or not so good) thing.

Used to use very low nap Gyeon Baldwipe for Prep application removal, back when I used a few spritzes on a panel. Kinda switched to a soft, high nap towel (like a Gyeon SoftWipe or Autopia Chinchilla) because of the increased amount of Prep I was using.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Guess it`s time to load a gallon or so of Panel Wipe in the Foam Cannon and foam the whole garage...


Yep...gonna give the Gtechniq a shot..


Interesting...have really been hosing the car down with the Gyeon Prep, per Gyeon USA recommendation, then wiping. Maybe too much of a good (or not so good) thing.

Used to use very low nap Gyeon Baldwipe for Prep application removal, back when I used a few spritzes on a panel. Kinda switched to a soft, high nap towel (like a Gyeon SoftWipe or Autopia Chinchilla) because of the increased amount of Prep I was using.
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I use either the edgeless micro towels ACC sells or gold plush micros for paint prep products.. I find the fluffier towels seem to want to lint..might just be me though
 
I have only used CarPro Eraser but never had the linting/ static issue.
I generally go two applications on the panel wipe now. One heavy followed by one light. I start with a heavier pile towel like the eagle edgeless towels then switch to a low pile like the bald wipe for the lighter application. Hope you get it solved!
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Interesting...have really been hosing the car down with the Gyeon Prep, per Gyeon USA recommendation, then wiping. Maybe too much of a good (or not so good) thing.

Used to use very low nap Gyeon Baldwipe for Prep application removal, back when I used a few spritzes on a panel. Kinda switched to a soft, high nap towel (like a Gyeon SoftWipe or Autopia Chinchilla) because of the increased amount of Prep I was using.
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I`ve not used the Gyeon prep, but I assume it`s a lot like Eraser. Panel Wipe is a LOT stronger and can damage fresh paint, especially if it`s sprayed directly on the surface. I`ve seen a few FB post of some damage and it was said to spray it directly on the towel. It can also mess up PPF so don`t use it on there either. ;)
 
I think I`ll be going with the spray on towel method. That seems to work best for me with many products.

First though, I think I`ll take August off. Might be nice to not have some car in some stage of detail for a few weekends.

Still have to redo the new, black Accord V6 Coupe but hopefully can resist getting into that until Sept...famous last words.

Starting to develop a curiosity regarding Scholls products...

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Honestly I have ditched panel wipes for the most part. I have either linting issues, marring issues due to not enough lubricity. I have switched to prep solve or mineral spirits. No issues what so ever and can get it by the gallon. It removes all polishing oils with ease.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Last 2 coatings I did (22ple & Kamikaze so likely not a product-related issue) were troublesome due to excessive lint/dust on prep`d surface. Have been using Gyeon Prep lately and wondering if related to that. I can`t recall exactly if this issue first started when I ran outta WG Perfeckt Finish Paint Prep and started using Gyeon Prep. Just seems like that car is `charged` and really tenaciously holding onto very, very fine towel lint. Short nap, Long nap...just seems to be an increasing issue of stuff left behind after somewhat liberal applications of Prep prior to coating. Like the towels aren`t picking up the very fine stuff but rather just pushing it around.

All worked out OK by carefully wiping panel with a Gyeon Baldwipe Towel immediately prior to coating a panel, essentially pushing the lint to the adjacent, gonna-be-coated-next panel...wiping/coating...moving around the car until I ended up back where I began. Obviously don`t wanna be touching the paint as much as I am in this scenario...if I ever run into a soft paint will possibly leave some marring. Towels are washed as they always have, no change in that aspect but it almost seems as if the car is `charged` with static due to the manner in which the lint clings to it instead of cleaning to a towel I`m `dusting` the surface with prior to coating application.

Wanna/gonna try a new panel wipe product to take the Gyeon Prep outta the equations, wondering what is everyone`s favorite? I think I have seen mentions of Optimum and Gtechniq as `favorites` but can`t remember for sure; the WG was OK but seemed streaky at times, especially as it aged in container.

Something, however, seems to be creating excessive static on surface during prep wipedown. Gyeon is `supposed` to be anti-static but who really knows. Weather has been kinda hot and humid lately if that might play into it.

Maybe I should just drive a metal stake 5ft into the ground and attach the car to it with a metal grounding strap prior to coating; while pointless, would make for some interesting pictures.
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Well I can tell you it isn`t those two factors that is creating the static electricity.
The wipe down with paint prep and humid conditions are anti-static preventive !
I would try using a water based wipe down like a quick detailer instead of paint prep to see if it make any difference.
 
I must be missing something here...I`d think any lint issues are towel-related, not product-related. I have some MFs that lint, so I just don`t use those on any surface where that`d be an issue.; I use other MFs that don`t lint..

Funny I guess, but while lots of my MFs appear to have a static electricity charge, I never have any issues getting product residue/etc. off the paint.
 
Accumulator said:
I must be missing something here...I`d think any lint issues are towel-related,
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Guess it could be...i did use nearly every kinda paint appropriate towel I had. Plush, medium kinda plush, Baldwipe, chinchilla, eagle edgless, freshly washed, washed s while ago and just pulled from storage.

It was weird...

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Static electricity only appears if the humidity level is below 35%. I used to work in the electronics field where the elimination of ESD is crucial and it was one of my responsibilities to make sure that plant was above 35% humidity at all times. If the MF is a bit damp there should be no static electricity in any condition.

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