BudA seminar ...

You are correct..., Buda is a walking/talking infomercial. He is "old school" in his beliefs of chemicals.
As paints have changed over the last 50 years, so has detailing products..., and for the better.
Follow ome of his posts. The bottom line is, he thinks ALL detailing products are exactly the same, only labeled differently.
WHAT A JOKE HE IS!!!
 
Bud A Seminars

I have read all your emails with regard to Bud A seminars and I find it pretty sad that all you got out of what he shared with you is he is trying to sell his products. That he is an A###hole, he is oppinonated. You think all the major brands of products are looking out for your best interest and not trying to sell you their products.
Maguairs charges $ 45 for a seminar to sell you their latest products and Buds is $225 and he is sharing ways for you to be more productive and make more money. He is very passionate and professional about the Detail industry, and donates alot of his time and energy in keeping everyone interested in this business educated and up to date so that you can be successful if you choose to. This is the type of person I prefer to listen to about my business and not an order taker who shows up at my door to sell me their latest product.
We have been in business for 18 years, With that said, I say this with personal claim. In 1999 my husband and I attended our first WCA Convention and Trade show in Las Vegas we attended Bud A all day seminar. We took what we learned from Bud A and implemented in our business, we took our gross from 85k year to 180k to date we have increased our revenue by 300%. I can honestly say, every Seminar we attend of Bud A has brought us more professionalism and revenue. We charge for our services, average detail $250 -$350, added other profit centers, paint sealants, annual revenue of $70k. This year we have gross revenue over $300k, I do not know any supplier who has ever helped me or anyone accomplish that. We are a mom & pop operation.

What we have learned we also enjoy sharing with other professional detailers and want to learn from you as well. Should anyone have any questions, feel free to email me. info@everydetailautocare.com

If you really are interested in increasing your business revenue, you should attend the ICA Convention and Trade show next year. Meeting with other Detailers from all over is a wealth of information and pays off.

Not only do I attend the Conventions, I also volunteer my time to the educational sessions on Detail. I have spoke on Marketing and Promoting Your Detailing Business, Increase your Bottom Line with Additional Services, Attracting More Customers and many others. I do not benefit from any of this except to help others in the industry to become more successful.

I would hope that these forums are for positive feedback and not to talk poorly of an industry leader. Sometimes we need to step back and really take a look at why we as detailers, have a hard time with new information and change. As business owners, we can only learn by opening our minds to new procedures, technology and education. These things are found by listening to the Bud A's and other successful detail business owners.

What we have tried to do in our business, is take one thing that we learned and implement it and see if it works for us. So far that has worked. I would rather spend the energy sharing success stories than negativety about any one who is willing to share professional information for the better of your business.

All the information that is shared by all is just our opions and what has worked for us. You can use it our not, just be kind to those who are sharing, some will find the information useful.

Just for the record, not everything Bud A has to say is the way to do business, he has been successful, he has helped others become successful and he has alot of knowledge to share with all who truly want to listen.

Diana B
Every Detail Auto Appearance Specialist
Member of WCA, ICA
Board of Director-WCA
Chair- Professional Detail Advisory Council - ICA



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k

well bud can count on at least one person going to his seminar lol

hey if you want to go , then go, what he teaches and his marketing ideas are the same stuff that guy who sells seminars to real estate agents, cpa's, or any other service for that matter, it all comes down to selling yourself. you can go to a real estate seminar and hear the same lines except with the words house, and curb appeal. thrown in instead of paint sealant or wax. you can go buy tons of great books on buisness and marketing by some of the greatest minds in the world, none of this a a giant secret.

many people on here dont like his style or personality and thats fine, its your choice and your money. just look for a seminar leader whose style you like, nothing wrong with that. i just wouldnt give my hard earned money to this fella, hes just not my cup of tea.

bud a is just looking to make some money like meguairs, automagic etc. its all about the benjamins.

if he is so passionate about helping others , a industry leader , and is such a big sucess then how come he doesn't give his seminar for free? like some of the other great business icons in our society, who share the knowledge for NOTHING, they compensation is knowing they are helping other people prosper in there given industry.

if he truly wants to give back, teach, and help others learn about detailing there wouldnt be a price tag at the end of his web page.
 
Sorry but I have to continue to disagree with you on this.
I don't care how long you have been a pro or what you know, there is NO REASON to be condescending to another person who asks your advice. I have seen him posts comments to people who respectfully disagree with him like, "you obviously don't know what you're doing". The comment was made in response to a fairly common compound question. It was totally uncalled for. Also, his articles and comments are common sense. I have yet to have him reveal a great tip to anyone. I guess you have to pay $225 dollars to learn new things.
On the other hand, here at DC many well respect pros like Anthony Orosco, Boss, Natty, Poorboy, and more regularly post great answers, entertain new ideas, and do it all with a humble and admirable attitude. My hat is off them as REAL pros....
Sorry, I guess I have had enough and he is the primary reason I left a couple other detailing web boards.
 
I've spoke to Bud on the phone a few tims and he is a true salemen with one expection. He does knock the other products out there and that alone cheapens his sale ability. I was a sale trainer for many years and know when I'm being worked.

I asked about one of his extractors and was hounded with e-mail until I told him stop and then I put him on the block list:D

A bit to aggressive for me, also he said that most all his biz is over seas setting up car detailing facuilies
 
k

not just the guys from otb lol there all over they got money to burn they dont need 225 buks that wont even buy them dinner.

Bud A can go sell his ice to the eskimo's

i like your guys advice much much better
 
Diane

I tend to agree with Robert here. Bud has run some very knowledgable people of the webcars site with his emails. I don't claim to be knowledgable when it comes to detailing but I no longer visit the webcars site either. Professional, I question (MPO) and I hardly feel passionate applies here eiter because I also saw the post that Robert was talking about and thought it was uncalled for.

A while back there was a discussion on the webcars site about carpet shampoos and I said something about mine. I received an email from Bud that I no longer have but it went something like this........ No carpet shampoo, even an extractor shampoo mixes to 1oz per gallon of water. Even extractor shampoos mix to 1oz per 64oz. of water. You either need to reread the label or get yourself a new shampoo. He didn't even bother to ask what I was using. Doesn't sound very professional or passionate to me. I kinda felt like he was calling me stupid. Many of my carpet care products come from a janitorial supply company!

When I emailed him a response and gave him the website that my carpet care products come from, I got a song and dance from him that he was referring to fricton shampoos or something like that. Anyway, that is past history but his latest email to me is what did me in for the webcars site.

I'm glad that Bud has helped you and wish nothing but the best for both of you. I have lost much respect for Bud in that he chooses to respond to posts via email rather that on the message boards that they are posted on. I wonder why?
 
I see Bud's advice as good and sensible 99% of the time. His facts arent the problem its his condescending tone when he talks to us. I have told him in more than one post that he treats us like were all fools and we dont enjoy it, it seemed to kinda bounce right off him though. lol


I dont get too worried about his arrogant attitude, instead I try to learn as much from his posts as I can and I do my best to ingore his rudeness. He seems to make good, logical sense with his advice when you look at the facts only and not his style of saying it.

As far as his articles in the wash magazines, I really enjoy reading them. They are the highlight of the whole publication in my opinion.

I guess it like that old saying "you can win the battle but still lose the war". :duel He will agrue about an issue to the point that the other person just gives up and walks away. While he feels he vindicates himself and proves how right he always has to be he instead makes everyone so mad that they have forgotten what the real point was and all they remember was how overbearing he was and that they never want to talk to him again. I overlook it most of the time because I believe the guy really is worth learning from but I can see how it has pushed many people away from the other forums and his company.

LOL Its like argueing with my wife, its totally pointless! lol :)


John
 
Arguing with your wife. Beautiful analogy John. Yes Bud has shed some light on many issues for me but I guess it all goes back to basic economics. What does he get out of it. He doesn't go to the site to get advice obviously so he is either there to stroke his ego or drum up biz (or both). Either way it's pointless to have discussions with him, civil or not.

It's too bad and like I said, Anthony has given just as much great advice, if not more and kept a very humble attitude about it. He was also featured in that magazine too, if i remember correctly.
 
Hello folks,

I have seen this thread for awhile now and I read the first few posts then stopped reading. I have held back from commenting because it is not my goal in detailing, life, business nor this forum to speak in a negative manner about another.

Bud is a very opinionated person who is also very passionate about auto detailing. Put those two together and the result is someone who always wants to be right, it is just the way it is. These types are prideful, at times arrogant and they seek to go above and beyond not because they truly seek to help and aide others but rather they do it for the admiration and recogniton from others.

It is not necessarily a bad thing to have these qualities, I mean we all seek to have recognition, we all seek to get a pat on the back for the hard work we do, I mean that's why many (including me) post up pictures of our BEFORE and AFTER work, and there is nothing wrong with that BUT if one seeks to degrade others (in the area of detailing) because they use a different product or a different technique, of because they may not know the chemical break down of a certain product they are using is not being constructive but rather destructive. I always welcome constructive criticism on my work and always seek to give it, because this is how one grows and learns, that is if they can accept that criticism.

Bud does have great knowledge but I believe the problem is is that he knows it. He and I have butted heads on many points and we have also agreed on many points. Those we disagree on are mainly when I give others advice about what products to use. He is a salesman and pushes his products, no debate there, but we should expect that because he is seeking to make a living. The problem arises when he puts down others for using these other products, or the products alone. He gets defensive if someone calls his stuff "junk" so he should not do so with other products. I have also received e-mails from Bud, as has a very close friend, and basically, from what I grasp from some of these e-mails, is that Bud seeks to do away with mobile detailers and if they are allowed they need to be trained and licensed and certified. Who would offer this training. license and certification? Well Bud would of course.

But again we can't blame Bud for his vision, even though logic would say it is ridiculous and perhaps impossible to accomplish, because we all have dreams and visions but this again shows how Bud is first a salesman. We can't blame him for that.

I look at his advice as "take some and leave some". Not all of his advice is sound and one must use discernment to tell what is and what is not. Would I pay over $200 to attend his seminar? I doubt it. I was thinking about giving a hands on seminar also but I would only charge about $75 per person and instead of sell "MY" products I would use a variety of products from different companies and speak about each ones pros and cons but then I thought, "Anthony, just who in the hell do you thing you are?" So I dropped that idea. I am not saying I would not attend because I have a beef with Bud (because I don't) but because I would rather work myself and make $200 or $300 detailing a car!

In closing I would like to thank those who consider my advice as something to give heed to, I appreciate that. I also wish to make it known that while I have a personal friendship with Irene Bernardo from Top of the Line, I also have a business relationship with her for over 12 years now and as many of you know I use many of the products she carries and give her website as a source to get products BUT I do not work FOR Irene nor Top of the Line. I push her products just as I do the products Dwayne carries because I believe in them and they are great people to work with. I have sent Irene a great deal of business but I pay for ALL of my orders just as everyone else who orders from her, just as I do with Dwayne.

Well I have ranted on long enough, I thank you all for your time.

Anthony
 
Thanks Anthony.

Anthony,

THanks for the post. I really do enjoy seeing the end results of your work, all of us have someone to look up to in their field. And while detailing may not be my "primary" field, it is something I work at. You are the one I look to be like, an honest, hard working person whose quality of work speaks volumes for the man behind the rotary. Your last post furthers that as someone who has integrity at the root of it all. Thanks for the post and sharing of insight.

-Matt
 
detaled by hans said:
Anthony, wondering why you had to mention that you paid for "ALL" your products from Irene and Dewayne..... has there been a problem ????
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Because there is a LOT of "forum advertisers" that get freebies for selling or endorsing sub-standard products and pushing certain products on the forum. Everyone but the "newbies" know who they are and what is going on by the numerous emails I have received about this very problem.

"Hey this is Dwayne stepping in. Yeah! Everyone is just cryin the blues to windsor and sending you emails! No one even knew who you were! Now they do! "


I am glad Anthony has his integrity and is not a "sell out" for free stuff or money like so many others and can give a fair reveiw..., no matter the brand name or who happens to be selling it.
Whatever you do..., don't say anything negative about anything at detail city or the "store" or you will syrely get booted out..., they sure can't handle any competition or anyone saying anything positive about a product they do not sell or have a hand in...,
IT'S ALL ABOUT GREED!!!

THANKS ANTHONY!!!
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Windsor, what facts do you have to prove anything that you are saying?

Can't handle competition? I am inviting them here to be sponsors and have their own forums! Guess how many have said no and do not want to support Detail City!

What I DO NOT TOLERATE is people spreading false allegations and starting trouble.

If I am not mistaken.... arent their reviews of products that I do not carry here at DC?

Obviously you are looking to start trouble and have a chip on your shoulder.

Get in line or get out!
 
Too late windsor ( Wayne the troll). You have been banned again. I heard that you have been banned on Autopia 2-3 times now too! LOL

Consider yourself an example. Try signing up again and I will ban you again. I will ban your whole city if I have to.

Detail City does not need people who troll or spam.

I personally do not need people who bash me or the way that I do business.

I will also not tolerate any bashing of my forums sponsors as well.
 
Anthony,THanks for the post. I really do enjoy seeing the end results of your work, all of us have someone to look up to in their field. And while detailing may not be my "primary" field, it is something I work at. You are the one I look to be like, an honest, hard working person whose quality of work speaks volumes for the man behind the rotary. Your last post furthers that as someone who has integrity at the root of it all. Thanks for the post and sharing of insight.-Matt
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Well said Matt !!! I feel the same way after reading Anthony's response.

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Hello Hans,

I made or included that comment because there are a few, just a few mind you, that feel I push certain products because I get them for free, no matter if they are good or not. This though is untrue. I do get sent "samples" from time to time and yes Irene will send me something to "test" out for her, for example she sent me a new wheel/tire brush combo to test out and I had to be honest with her after testing it and said it just would not work. She was dissapointed but we came up with ways to improve it and make it work. Dwayne has sent me a few things to "test" and I have done so but in the future I don't expect freebies because I did so (by the way Dwayne, check's in the mail :) )

I use my full name on all the forums I visit and post on because I feel that makes me have to be more responsible for the things I say, the advice I give and the products I recommend. If I am a jerk or get out of line then everyone, both pro and amateur, know who I am and the little reputation I have has been ruined.

Matt,

Wow, I had no idea that the things I say and the work I present could have such an effect on someone. Your kind words are very humbling indeed and only enforce what I said or wrote to "hans" and also the post concerning "Bud".

It is Christ Jesus whom I seek to give all the praise to because I do my work, each and every detail, as unto the Lord! This helps me, I pray, to keep a level head.

Thanks again and I hope that this does not distract from the main theme of this thread, sorry if I hijacked it.

Anthony
 
As a product supplier, I may choose from time to time to show my appreciation for an ORDER and give away a new product just to get the product in the hands of the people. Usually the customer has no idea this is coming and I NEVER ask for ANYTHING in return.

In business this is called under promising and over delivering.
I have many requests from people who ask for product samples and many of them offer to "review" the product in exchange for a free sample.
In most cases my answer is always no.


Long story short, there is no conspiracy here. You won't get product bashing out of me. I won't try to sell you anything. Detail City isn't about me selling products. I was selling products long before DC exsisted. It is the profit from the products I sell that has made DC possible.


Now I have hijacked this thread too! LOL

Let me go see if windsor has a new alias so I can ban him again.
 
Not that Dwayne Needs it ... but

I wanted to chime in for a minute on the "hijacked" version of this thread.

I have spoken with Dwayne many times. I call him for advice on products on a weekly basis. I often ask him about products which are not 4 Star or Platinum products. He gives me a straight answer and often times has directed me to products which support my needs and at times has led me down a path to not buy a particular product because it just was not right for my business needs. This builds trust as I know Dwayne will not mislead me and will not bash a product just because it is not his own. This forum is a nice reflection of Dwayne and the group at Premium! I have certainly experienced some unexpected samples in my orders and these samples were NOT 4 Star Products which is unique in that he chooses to show samples of products he things are worthy. My service to clients is improved by my experiences with Dwayne and I will pay more for this service. (But not too much more, no ideas Dwayne!)

-Matt:lmfao
 
Hello to all, Though I am not known to submit many replies I felt that this thread did deserve some comment. I have enjoyed reading this thread for the last few weeks and have wanted to laugh, cry, and at times commit murder. The original posting by Clean Dean was reasonable and I am not sure if he has actually really gotten an answer. I for one, perhaps the only one:)), will be attending Bud's seminar in Atlanta..... not because he is such a great guy (and despite his many faults which I believe were best described by Anthony and John) but simply because, 1) It is convenient to me, 2)he has proven to be extremely knowledgeable and helpful to many detailers over the years with his advice and expertise ( though he and I have exchanged numerous e-mails and phone calls because we disagree over various threads in numerous forums) 3) If someone really wants to learn and grow in their endeavors they must be willing to listen and learn from "all" and not limit themselves to only what they want to hear. 4) The price is NOT high for an all day seminar and though I am sure he will offer his companies products for sale (Who would not?)I will be buying nothing. I feel certain that I will learn something of value and hopefully will meet some other detailers and have an opportunity to exchange ideas/tricks of the trade and simply tell our various tales of happiness and sadness over a few beers. The idea is to continue our education and have Fun!!!! Much to the disbelief of some these two words can go together. I appreciate those who offered true, actual and intelligent information and comments to this thread unlike some who gave an opinion on someone or something of which they had little or no knowledge. Though this thread resulted in only one being banned from this forum I feel we all need to be aware of the of the forum rules, particularly #3 and #5. which at times were IMO pushed to their limits in this thread. This is a fantastic forum with many extremely knowledgeable people who, like myself, have moved from other forums in our continuous quest to find a place where the facts are discussed and true professionals and others can exchange ideas, concepts, experiences, and lessons learned without interferance from those who simply feel they have to say "Something" or sell something. Thanks to Dwayne and all those who make this forum work as it is intended. Have a Great Labor Day and Happy detailing to all!!!! PTL
 
Hey Ron, I would be interested to hear what the seminar is like when you get back. Im just curious what your experience will be like.


Best regards,
John
 
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