Questions About Steps

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CharlesW

The Rainmaker
For just a little over a year, I have been using AIO/UPP on my van. It has been a great combination. Hate to change what works, but.....
It is time for some swirl removal. I use Meguiar's #9 Swirl Remover 2.0. Also works good.
Now the questions.
1. After the #9, will using AIO remove whatever fillers that the #9 left?
2. Will UPP bond to my finish if I apply it right after the #9?
3. Should I use:
(a) #9, AIO, UPP as in the past?
(b) #9, UPP, leaving out the AIO step?

The fact that the AIO might remove the fillers left by #9, made me think I might be doing a step that detracts more than it adds.

Gotta start taking shorter showers! Too much time to think.


:D
 
I also use #9 as a prep for my UPP from time to time. However I use UPC after the #9. I think the UPP would have problems bonding correctly with the #9 because of all of the pure polishing oils.

I would go #9, AIO, UPP. The fact that it removes fillers for me has always been a good thing, though I can see where you may want to leave the fillers on the surface as long as possible. I guess it just comes down to preference.

ps. I pick my own brain in the shower as well. :D
 
rhillstr said:
when in doubt- I say pick a small area and test the different combos.
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That is what I usually do, but since the only way to find out if the UPP didn't bond would be to wait until it no longer looked good, that didn't seem like something I wanted to do.
Given the doubts I had to start with, I went ahead and used my regular procedure. #9, AIO, UPP, all applied with the PC. #9 and AIO with polishing pads, and the UPP with a finishing pad. I did spray a mist of water on the pad used with the AIO. I also sprayed a very small amount of Platinum Gloss Enhancer on the pad used to apply the UPP. The UGE seemed to help a little in getting good thin coverage with the UPP.
I even used the PC to remove the UPP. Something I picked up from another site. PC on 1 or 2, MF towel on surface the sealant is being removed from. Works great. I don't run the PC unless it is in contact with the MF on the vehicle.The MF towel kind of sticks to the polishing pad so it doesn't fly off into some corner of the garage.
In looking at the results, I made the right choice.:p
 
The AIO is going to remove any fillers left by #9 as it has a fairly agressive cleaning action. It is my understanding that #9 partially fills and partially removes the swirls, so I think you are going to be doing some work for nothing. Personally, I would go with Poorboys SSR1 and actually remove the swirls rather than fill them if I were going with an acrylic product. I use #9 when i'm going with carnuba on top.
 
Ive been reading about using MF towls on PCs as well. Makes me wish I owned a PC!

BTW, Dwayne you need to make another special MF order, this time make if 5 & 6 inch MF bonnets for PCs!
 
CharlesW said:
I even used the PC to remove the UPP. Something I picked up from another site. PC on 1 or 2, MF towel on surface the sealant is being removed from. Works great. I don't run the PC unless it is in contact with the MF on the vehicle.The MF towel kind of sticks to the polishing pad so it doesn't fly off into some corner of the garage.
In looking at the results, I made the right choice.:p
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That's a very interesting procedure Charles.............. do you think it might be worth getting a couple MF bonnets to do that?
 
Boss_429 said:


That's a very interesting procedure Charles.............. do you think it might be worth getting a couple MF bonnets to do that?
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Just my opinion, but I think using the loose towel is easier. If you feel it needs a fresh side, turn it over. If you feel it's loaded up with residue, throw another one on the car and have at it. The bonnets seem like they would be too much of a nuisance to me. Try it with just the MF towel, it works pretty good.:)
 
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